gws
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Post by gws on Sept 12, 2021 12:47:32 GMT -5
If I was starting today, with what I know now, I'd buy A Rebel, and a Lee APP on the side.  Heck I'm tempted anyway.... Midsouth has this sale on rockchuckers and Rebels....and the Rebel Kit is cheaper than the $390 RockChucker kit ......and it has a spent primer hole through the ram, and is heavier than the R.C. and taller mouth good for anything under .50 cal......and.....it comes with the New Uniflow 3 that has done away with the need for two cylinders to buy. And it's really in stock.
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bob
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Post by bob on Sept 12, 2021 16:03:47 GMT -5
Thanks Greg, that Rebel does look like an improved Rock Chucker with the zerk fitting and wider mounting plate. Gonnahafta look at that uniflow though I don't see that as being better than the two cylinder set up other than saving some money initially. I have two Uniflows one for pistol and one for rifle loading.  |
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Post by gws on Sept 12, 2021 17:14:24 GMT -5
About that Uniflow: I have 1 old old one, 2 Competition Models (Pro 2000), one Quickchange (came with the ProChucker 5), one large pound of powder, Quickchange, came with my Pro Chucker 7 upgrade kit and finally the Model 3. I didn't collect them for bragging rights...most came with presses. The Model 3 I got free from RCBS, for some serious time I spent, gratis, helping them wring out their latest website....free guinea pig. (I know one of their engineers) I did a review of the new Model 3 last year on TheHighRoad.org, you can check it out if you want...I use a different name there, same avatar.
www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/uniflow-3-picture-review.871276/ Look at my main post there, then you can decide whether you want to "downgrade" Their previous model was the Quick Change model and I liked it for progressive use, it used two inserts to one cylinder for big and small cavity size. But the new one is more refined and easier to use than that one. I don't miss the cavity dependent cylinders. |
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Sept 12, 2021 19:31:47 GMT -5
Greg, some of these beginner kits really look good. A friend showed one by one of the manufacturers (Pick a color...) and the guy was delighted with it. I haven't really looked at the press, and will struggle along with my 'chucker ! Hope everyone is well !
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Post by gws on Sept 13, 2021 10:25:30 GMT -5
Greg, some of these beginner kits really look good. A friend showed one by one of the manufacturers (Pick a color...) and the guy was delighted with it. I haven't really looked at the press, and will struggle along with my 'chucker ! Hope everyone is well ! When I started, me, a brother-in-law, and my father-in-law went in together and bought a Rockchucker (the rough finished original) in a kit offered mail order by Gander Mountain.....think that was in 1973. The deal was, I had the room to set it up in my garage, and the in-laws didn't.....they footed 2/3's of the bill with the understanding that I was their slave for life, making the ammo for all of us. That lasted a few years until my father-in-law retired from ranching and wanted to learn loading.
So I packed it up, made him a portable bench for his spare bedroom, and taught him how. That meant I was outa business....so I bought a better setup from another brother-in-law who was bored with the hobby, being a little more flush by that time. His was an R.C. II with a 10-10 scale, and that's the single, and scale I still use today.
I don't need a Rebel, obviously, but they ARE neat.....and they handle primers in the Lee Cast manner....an improvement for sure. Can't say I'm not tempted. I don't prime on the press anyway, having converted the built-in primer to my famous (or infamous) spent primer catcher. Just dreaming.....BUT once again, if I was starting today, I would run, not walk, to the computer and order a Rebel, and a Lee APP. I of course do have and love my Lee APP for case prep and depriming......it's the a case/bullet feeder that supplies it, that made me a believer. Cuts my case processing time by 2/3's.
So Mr. Pooh, which "chucker" do you love and use? I mean, "struggle along with". |
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Sept 13, 2021 15:41:12 GMT -5
Greg, it's an RC II that I picked up in '87 or so, after I blew out the linkage on my Lee first-gen turret press while attempting case forming. (Hand it to Lee, however. Something like ten years later, I stumbled on to the parts on their web page, and for something like ten bucks, it was back on the bench, sharing lighter duties. Lee is very cool !) At this point, I suspect the RC will outlast me, even after being the go-to over a quarter century of highpower.('06, .308, and later, .223.) We dawdle along and make ammunition. I don't feel handicapped as I can't shoot'em that fast ! Oddly enough, I ordered it from Gander Mountain-they used to be the place to go !
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bob
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Post by bob on Sept 14, 2021 9:46:57 GMT -5
While you guys complain about your modern equipment I started with a used Jr ll and a used Lyman Ohaus M5 (10-10) which I still use. I upgraded to the Rock Chucker in 1998 when I realized this wasn't a passing fancy then found the RCBS 304 scale, all are used regularly. As Pooh said I don't feel "physically" handicapped as I normally only shoot 20 - 50 rounds a month.
I do like the Rebel though but don't foresee it in my future.
Greg your presentation of the UFlll was very interesting !
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Post by SnapShot on Sept 14, 2021 10:50:39 GMT -5
I cut my teeth on a Lyman Single Stage ‘C’ press in the mid-60’s after obtaining a 38 Police Special and could not afford Factory Ammo. In those days it was very cost effective to reload; especially when I got into casting Wheel-Weights for bullets. Back then Lyman presses were battleship gray. My first scale was the 10/10 too. Today my bench has most of the colors (read as “brands”) and over the years I think I’ve had something from each of them. Thinking of starting out anew I would be hard pressed to choose the color . . . one of the starter kits driven by price would be the key factor.
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Sept 20, 2021 13:28:50 GMT -5
Quick update- the latest Handloader came in today's mail, and Terry Wieland had a writeup on the RCBS kits.
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Heck I'm tempted anyway....
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
