SnapShot
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Post by SnapShot on Oct 7, 2021 15:00:21 GMT -5
A new neighbor moved in recently and it turns out he is a reloader. He elects to use Hornady, spray-on case lube. I have been reloading since the early 60’s and still use a linen stamp-pad with RCBS Case Lube #2. I read the label on the Hornady Can and it calls for spraying the inside of the die as well as the outside of the cases. It states there is no issue relating to contamination of primers or powder. This seems like something I have been avoiding for over 60 years. In the thousands of rounds I’ve loaded I have never had a problem related to lubing cases (I do own a stuck case remover but have never had need to use it).
What say you guys? What methods and products do you all use?
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Post by hacker54 on Oct 7, 2021 15:50:36 GMT -5
I have used the Hornady One Shot Aerosol with very good results. I load up a reloading block with 50 hold speay can at about a 45 degree angle and turn the block 360 as this helps to get the inside of the necks also. I also have a spray lube in a pump bottle that I got from MidwauUSA. That one I did not use alot but it worked as good as the Hoenady. What I have been using alot is Hornady's Unique Case Lube. This is in a small tub. A little on you finger and one can lube several cases. Now Hornady has another in a tub and that one is a wax type like "Imperial" I do like the "Unique Lube" very much.
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gws
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Post by gws on Oct 7, 2021 16:13:52 GMT -5
I've tried them all....even the homemade Lanolin/alcohol spray.....and even STP. IME, it depends on what your sizing. For most things Imperial works fine and I like to use it for it's simplicity, but not for sizing hard stuff like the Machine Gunned LC 7.62 you used to could buy in bulk from Wideners. For that stuff, only two of them made the grade. STP and RCBS Case Lube II. The RCBS bettering STP by the much easier cleanup being water-based. But of course it's also a pain to have to use a pad....and it's messier than sprays. Lanolin types including Dillon's will get you a stuck case with the hard stuff. Hornady One Shot has stuck a lot of cases because people didn't let it dry....dry it works pretty good. Same for all sprays....I like them for progressive work, but you have to let them dry. So I use Imperial for easy, RCBS II for hard....STP? You have to be a masochist! What a mess! But it's lubricity is hard to beat. Sprays for progressives, but I would never put LC m.g brass in a progressive before the first sizing.
I should add one more thing....we used to size pistol in carbide dies without lube. Now being as old as I am, that's in the past. Why make loading harder than it has to be. Any lube is better than no lube.....don't care what dies you use and what caliber you're sizing. I like easy. 
Do clean your dies once in a while......not that hard.
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bob
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Post by bob on Oct 7, 2021 19:31:45 GMT -5
I have been using the Imperial wax for some and really like it also an Imperial dry graphite base lube which I use for neck sizing but the RCBS lube and pad has been, for almost 60 years, and still is my primary lube. I have worn out two pads using it. I'm not partial to the sprays too messy, I think, and I load 1 at a time anyway.
I agree with Greg about carbide dies I also lube for them.
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Oct 8, 2021 6:53:54 GMT -5
I'm still using up Bonanza* in a bottle. A little goes a long way ! Unless it's a special occasion, when I' using carbide dies, I let them do their thing, without the stuff.I picked up a lot of 357 brass a few years ago,and gave in. I needed the help ! I also tried Imperial recently, and although it's a little slow, the stuff I was doing carried, at least in my mind a danger of sticking. No doubt the stuff is super. I don't like the idea of water based lube-had a bad experience long ago with something RCBS put out. Stuff's probably improved by now...
My stuff always gets tumbled after lubing, so cases are clean when seating gets done.
*Now sold as Forster's, I believe.
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gws
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Post by gws on Oct 8, 2021 17:31:33 GMT -5
So Pooh......you still loading on that .357 brass buy? I have quite a bit of that too. You guys probably remember me talking about buying the Lee APP. Well I've taken that to a higher level with 3D printed parts designed by TylerR on Cast Boolits.... It's made me get out my .357 dies again to load up all that spend brass.
You mentioned tumbling the brass after loading.....I'm using the APP to deprime the stuff and tumble before priming and loading....
Rather than highjack this lube thread, I'll start a new thread on that to keep show you the improved APP....it's neat what he's done for the little press.....
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Oct 8, 2021 19:24:56 GMT -5
Greg, I don't want to travel down the road of tumbling after loading. Ma Pooh's next to youngest child will not do that ! I was refering to tumbling after sizing to clean off whatever lubricant I used, or just to get the pockets cleaned if I haven't lubricated them. Sorry, didn't mean to trip you up !
I really needed the 357 brass like a hole in the head, but there it sat in bulk splendor, and the price was reasonable. My LGS had a store wide sale and that triggered the price point for me. I got them sorted, disposed of some I just didnt like the looks of, and most of them sit in nice boxes, awaiting the joyful day components are cheap and plentiful. At .02/piece, I just couldn't pass them up.
Really looking forward to seeing what you're doing with the APP.
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Post by SnapShot on Oct 12, 2021 14:01:17 GMT -5
Pooh ~
I had one of the original Bonanza co-ax presses when they were “Bonanza” with a brown wrinkle paint finish. I liked it but at one point, when cash was short, a guy offered me more than it was worth and I had a few single stage presses so I sold it.
When you bought that brass at 2 cents each were you holding the 357 pointed at the seller? If I found 357 brass at that price I’d buy it and I don’t need any. A while back I mentioned, on here, that I was looking for 10mm Auto brass. Well I got carried away on the acquisition and now have the local market cornered on 10mm Auto (anyone need any); seems I wind up doing that too often.
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Post by poohzilla on Oct 12, 2021 18:04:32 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what happened. I even got to keep the bucket ! Never met a handloader who couldn't resist a bargain...
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Post by gws on Oct 12, 2021 18:55:17 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what happened. I even got to keep the bucket ! Never met a handloader who couldn't resist a bargain... Oh! So that's why I have 1000 pieces of machine-gunned 7.62 brass that's so dang hard to deprime, swage, tumble and especially hard to size......
Here's 1/5th of it ready to load (done more than 24 months ago).....that was such a chore, the other 4/5ths is still in the same state as when it arrived. Remains to be seen if I get the energy to actually load it......and that chore was done BEFORE I found the 3D printer or the Lee APP......which would have made it a lot easier. Could have deprimed AND swaged it in a 10th of the time......sizing? Would have been no help at all.
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My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
