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Post by hacker54 on Dec 16, 2022 11:51:28 GMT -5
Well gentlemen there's other folks out there like our Greg aka GWS. Came across this video using a 3D printed case feeder for the Lee APP press. I found it very interesting and like the idea of once set all one has to do is change out the feeder dies. Now they did run into problems with rifle cases and I think it is addressed in another video but not this one. So Greg hope you see this and comment on what you think of this setup.
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Post by gws on Dec 17, 2022 12:27:52 GMT -5
Maybe OK if you can get it to load more sizes....and you are content to stay with Lee's 4-way tube feeder. Electric 3D printed collators are what I prefer....so I only need the simpler single stack tube. The TylerR version I use is just as easy to change calibers, but more versatile for my needs. I don't think the design in your video does all calibers without changing the plug-in part too...in addition to changing the shell holder....and the plug-in part is more complicated than just printing and dropping in one of these:
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the inventor is just getting started.....he will find many problems to solve....as we did.... I'm glad all that's behind me.  One more thing....I didn't design what I use.....TylerR did. I did help him develop it and did help him by designing some of the above caliber parts.
The picture above is all the calibers we've developed...cases.....AND....boolits to size as well.
TylerR's system doesn't care if you load 9mm or 7mm mag....changing calibers is this fast: (shown on my Summit modded with TylerR's APP, but same same on the Lee press.)
Obviously, the two I changed used the same shellholder or I would have had to change that too.
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Post by hacker54 on Dec 17, 2022 14:00:18 GMT -5
Greg I like your setup as well. I do like the one that can go on the four tube setup as I don't have room for what you work with. This guy's setup might work with Titan's six tube feeder. Maybe?
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Post by gws on Dec 17, 2022 18:43:15 GMT -5
Greg I like your setup as well. I do like the one that can go on the four tube setup as I don't have room for what you work with. This guy's setup might work with Titan's six tube feeder. Maybe? No, not made for six. One would have to design and print new parts to do that.
I found the source for this at Thingiverse..... www.thingiverse.com/thing:5380589 .... and the design does have a lot of calibers of Part 3, but he admits to not having them all trouble free. Not surprises at that since he just cutout the fronts rather than shaping them as we eventually had to do. It's a weakness in Lee's design that encourages long cases to wobble and even fall over as they are pushed forward.
We helped that by making square cutouts of each caliber and pushing them through the down tube (then erasing it) which left shaped holes rather than just cut out at the centerline. The pictures below show how the improved cutout can prevent sideways movement when it's dropped to the shuttle, by surrounding the case as long as possible:
These are both for .223....the one on the right worked because it didn't allow side movement when the case drops.
The picture below shows how much more that's important as the case gets longer:
What this picture shows is a .270 case that just got fed from the red .270 down tube......the 3 black downtubes to the right are .30-06.
The one on the right is a cutout at the centerline like what the designer of version you found does....works for very short cases....less so the longer the case gets. The one in the center is our first attempt at improving them.....better but still had problems....the one on the left is what works.
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Post by gws on Dec 17, 2022 18:57:21 GMT -5
Okay....as for this version on Thingiverse you found, here's the three parts....and you can see you have to redo two of them to hand 6 tubes.
The base that you insert the steel bolt in. The circle is way too small for your 6-way
Part 2 for the four tubes.....
See...this is the .308 version part 3, with half or more cut out allowing the case to drop and go unstable, because the top of the case isn't supported laterally very well. These #3 parts are maybe convertible to the 6 tube ... if you make the other two parts in 6-tube versions.
Hope this helps you see possibilities rather than just the problems. 
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Post by hacker54 on Dec 17, 2022 19:30:22 GMT -5
Thanks Greg for taking the time to dissect this and show more of the workings to this. Since it will handle the four tube setup this would be great on my ABLP for handgun calibers. Once set no need to adjust for 9mm to 38spl just swap out inserts. I would only have to change out shell plates.
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Post by gws on Dec 17, 2022 20:43:00 GMT -5
Yes, that's the neat part about both designs...just change downtubes and shell holders. Well....have you found a source who can print you the parts?....or are you getting a $200 Ender 3 for Christmas?!?
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Post by hacker54 on Dec 17, 2022 21:44:57 GMT -5
Have no room to setup one of those printers. So that part is a no. As of now I do not know of anyone close that has a printer to get parts done. I don't know if Titan would be interested in doing such. I just might look into that.
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Post by gws on Dec 17, 2022 22:08:46 GMT -5
Check your town's library. Many around the country offer a 3d printing service.
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Post by gws on Dec 19, 2022 22:47:30 GMT -5
Okay Hacker....I downloaded the files and printed them, and here's a video of the result:
IF you pm me an address to send it to I will donate this to your Christmas stash....ok maybe a day or two late.... I printed both 9mm and .38 spec. inserts. IOW's, hurry. |
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Post by hacker54 on Dec 20, 2022 16:20:24 GMT -5
Greg I sent you my info.
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Post by gws on Dec 21, 2022 16:48:18 GMT -5
Package is on the way to....Hacker! Only name I have. So tell your family and your personal postman that it's real. It's going to be two days late for Christmas, look for it Tuesday. I had extra hardware laying around, so added what I had, but I didn't have any M3 spring plungers nor did I have small enough nylocs to leave room for the inserts....which is why I whittled the backs of the inserts to make them fit. The designer didn't leave much play in anything. However......I did print and include two unwhittled-on inserts to replace them, if YOU can find M3 Nylocs that work better. Now for the "spring plungers" the German designer included his link for where HE found them.... a link in Germany. Not much help here......you can find something similar here, but I am not convinced you even need them. Just make matching marks on the upper and the base....and line them up. I would have done what Lee did and just make a flexible plastic bump for a rotation stop. I included a "testing" piece of thinwall clear plastic. Just throw it away when you're done testing drop. Tracking # is: 9505 5110 1942 2355 6159 13. Merry Christmas! |
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Post by hacker54 on Dec 21, 2022 17:52:39 GMT -5
Thank you very much my friend. I'm hoping it works out for my intended purpose. Oh and a MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and your family.
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Post by gws on Dec 21, 2022 18:44:05 GMT -5
You're welcome.....and btw.....I totally disagree with their big to do about the screws anchoring the inserts.....the designer is even considering metal thread inserts in the base to screw them into. Hogwash! The little M2 bolts I included to be used as pins! Just drop them in and load. Then when you want to change calibers...push em up from below, pull them out, insert a new caliber, then drop them in again. That is all you need. I only supplied the teeny nuts to get them to you, you don't need them either. Watch the video again and see how I used them....no nuts necessary. Remember, the purpose is quick-change.
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One more thing....I didn't design what I use.....TylerR did. I did help him develop it and did help him by designing some of the above caliber parts.
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
