hal8337
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Location: Livonia, Louisiana
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H110
Jul 11, 2014 7:42:45 GMT -5
Post by hal8337 on Jul 11, 2014 7:42:45 GMT -5
I purchased a pound of H110 recently mostly because there were few choices on the shelf in a local gun shop. In the manuals it recommends using magnum primers which the shop didn't have and neither did I. The manuals also stated to be aware of hesitations (click-bang) if using standard primers. I decided to load a box of .357 and give it a try and the result was all fired w/o any hesitation. After firing and inspection of the cases I noticed some type of residue in the cases stuck to the inside wall of the case. Since I have never used any H110 before and since I used standard primers instead of magnum I don't know what caused the residue. Any Suggestions.
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H110
Jul 11, 2014 8:08:12 GMT -5
Post by hacker54 on Jul 11, 2014 8:08:12 GMT -5
hal8337,
Does this residue look like unburnt powder? If so it might be from the primer as I stated might. I use Win. 296 which is the same as H110 yes they are one in the same. 110/296 is a magnum powder and also a ball powder. If you check your manuals they suggest mag primers for these slow burn rate powders and also a very firm to heavy roll crimp in the magnum calibers to get proper burn of the powder. The (click-bang) that you mentioned is when you are at the low start charge weights as to the position of the powder in the case. So the mag primer with the hotter flame/spark and having a longer duration than a standard primer will aid in igniting the lower start charge weights of powder. Maybe someone else can shed more light on this for you.
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Jul 11, 2014 9:32:49 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 9:32:49 GMT -5
I'm with Hacker54 on this. I use large volumes of H110/W296 and this happens "only" with to low charges and bad ignition and less crimping. H110 likes powerful load combinations, load to weak and you get this.
PJ
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hal8337
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Location: Livonia, Louisiana
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Jul 11, 2014 9:40:16 GMT -5
Post by hal8337 on Jul 11, 2014 9:40:16 GMT -5
The residue was in maybe 1/4 of the cases and my first assumption was powder but not having used it before I wasn't sure. I plan to get magnum primers and run another batch. Thanks for the advice.
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poohzilla
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Jul 11, 2014 12:51:00 GMT -5
Post by poohzilla on Jul 11, 2014 12:51:00 GMT -5
Hi, Hal- PJ and Hacker are pretty much on. I'd just add that you should be particularly cautious about ignition on these powders in cold weather-of course, as I wrote that, I looked up and saw you are in Louisiana !- if you're looking for oomphy loads in .357, I like 2400. For lesser loads, Unique is great. I understand we have to make use of what we have on hand or can get. There are many ways to Nirvana.
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dangun
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Jul 11, 2014 15:46:47 GMT -5
Post by dangun on Jul 11, 2014 15:46:47 GMT -5
Many don't know this but if you can get small rifle primers they can an are often used as a safe and acceptable substitute in place of small pistol mag primers. Years ago the were labeled that way by a couple of primer manufacturers. Just like H100 is the same as W296 small rifle and small pistol mag are the same.
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Jul 14, 2014 15:07:26 GMT -5
Post by ultramag on Jul 14, 2014 15:07:26 GMT -5
You most likely had an issue with lighter starting charges aided somewhat by the non-magnum primers. You also need a good firm crimp with it as stated previously.
One of my favorite .44M loads is set-off by a Federal No. 150 large pistol primer. It's a 310 gr. home cast Lee bullet w/ GC over 21.5 gr. H110. No issues lighting it and it is actually more accurate than the same load with a mag primer. H110 is more dangerous with reduced charges than non-magnum primers. It is not suggested to reduce H-110 more than about 3%.
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