Post by krwada on Jul 28, 2014 15:48:38 GMT -5
OK ... I just participated at a thread over at Calguns. The fellow had a gun / shot log app. It actually looked pretty good for reloading. Then the conversation turned to politics. I mentioned that in some places keeping a very strict accounting of every single projectile is not only mandatory ... but not doing so properly will land you in jail. Here is my post.
In European countries, (like the Netherlands for example), this application is MANDATED by law.
In it, you need to:
1. log every single round purchased
2. log every single reloaded round mfr along with the projectile description
3. log every single round sent downrange, including caliber and which firearm
4. log every single round which was scrapped for any reason.
5. Submit your log application or log bound book to the authorities for review
6. Acquiesce to random unannounced spot checks by your local authorities.
7. To do #6, they do not come to your home. They require that you setup an appointment for review.
IF the SUM of 3&4 DOES NOT MATCH the SUM of 1&2, OR DO NOT MAKE APPOINTMENT, (#7) ... YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR A FELONY!!!
OH ... by the way ... The Authorities do, from time to time, come visit your home, and do not need a warrant, (you waived this right by signing that FOID application). They do this to count the rounds you have on person to check. They also have electronic copies of all your ammo and projectile purchases on their database, (you waived this right when you signed up to get your FOID).
FOID == Firearms Owner IDentification card. Without it, you cannot purchase any ammo or any firearms in the Netherlands.
Needless to say, there will be a law such as this which WILL be enacted in the state of California ... First ... they need to enact a law which requires a FOID in the state of California, (much like SB53).
so....
Why the heck are you doing this?
For me, I do keep a reloading log book. I do this as part of the reloading discipline. I do not keep a shooting / ammo acquisition log.
So, my question is ... how far off am I in saying this? This is based on the many conversations I have had here with PJ on gun laws over in the Netherlands.
I really do hope it never comes to this here in California.
Ken
In European countries, (like the Netherlands for example), this application is MANDATED by law.
In it, you need to:
1. log every single round purchased
2. log every single reloaded round mfr along with the projectile description
3. log every single round sent downrange, including caliber and which firearm
4. log every single round which was scrapped for any reason.
5. Submit your log application or log bound book to the authorities for review
6. Acquiesce to random unannounced spot checks by your local authorities.
7. To do #6, they do not come to your home. They require that you setup an appointment for review.
IF the SUM of 3&4 DOES NOT MATCH the SUM of 1&2, OR DO NOT MAKE APPOINTMENT, (#7) ... YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR A FELONY!!!
OH ... by the way ... The Authorities do, from time to time, come visit your home, and do not need a warrant, (you waived this right by signing that FOID application). They do this to count the rounds you have on person to check. They also have electronic copies of all your ammo and projectile purchases on their database, (you waived this right when you signed up to get your FOID).
FOID == Firearms Owner IDentification card. Without it, you cannot purchase any ammo or any firearms in the Netherlands.
Needless to say, there will be a law such as this which WILL be enacted in the state of California ... First ... they need to enact a law which requires a FOID in the state of California, (much like SB53).
so....
Why the heck are you doing this?
For me, I do keep a reloading log book. I do this as part of the reloading discipline. I do not keep a shooting / ammo acquisition log.
So, my question is ... how far off am I in saying this? This is based on the many conversations I have had here with PJ on gun laws over in the Netherlands.
I really do hope it never comes to this here in California.
Ken
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
