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Post by krwada on Oct 1, 2014 23:48:01 GMT -5
Now that SB808, (the heinous ghost gun bill) got vetoed here in California ... all I can say is "What a relief"! OK ... now that this is out of the way ... I thought it would be good to share this video with you. This is a CNC mill in a box that is being produced here in California ... to make ... what else? A ghost gun of course! Here is the URL of the company that is making this device. Only in California ... Yes ... this is what it has come to. We are barely hanging on a thread here ... mostly because our right to keep and bear arms is fully codified in the 2nd amendment. They try ... and we FIGHT! It is something else that it has come to this here... I know for one ... I shall continue to fight and resist! Ken |
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Post by gws on Oct 1, 2014 23:56:58 GMT -5
So Ken, have you ordered the CNC in a box? My son-in-law's brother made a "ghost gun"....... guess it was the only way to own an AR for him.
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Post by krwada on Oct 2, 2014 12:23:30 GMT -5
So Ken, have you ordered the CNC in a box? My son-in-law's brother made a "ghost gun"....... guess it was the only way to own an AR for him. Hello Greg; I already own a mill. I am a bit leery of anything CNC that is under $10,000. There is a whole new level that one needs to do to a mill in order to make it CNC ready. I am completely fine with owning a small entry level mill to do my hobby projects on. Say! Maybe you ought to get one of those entry level mills no? You do lots of projects. I can already see the ideas swirling around of what you would do with such a thing! The Grizzly G0704 costs about $1300 including S&H. The tooling, in general, will cost at least as much as the mill itself. There is all kinds of stuff you can do with the mill ... and not just with firearms too. One of my not-to-distant projects is to make a rare-earth magnet brass cleaner. I already have purchased the DC motors, power supply and extra heavy duty Neodymium magnets for this. |
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Post by gws on Oct 2, 2014 14:59:15 GMT -5
MicroMarkIs this miniature mill worth considering? I can't see me making anything very large. They have a cheap 3D printer they listed for the first time this month as well. I could use one of those to make prototypes of my vast invention library........kidding. But to answer your question, if you were my neighbor and was around to help me learn how to do something with a mill besides stare at it, I might be more interested. 
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Post by krwada on Oct 2, 2014 16:01:14 GMT -5
MicroMarkIs this miniature mill worth considering? I can't see me making anything very large. They have a cheap 3D printer they listed for the first time this month as well. I could use one of those to make prototypes of my vast invention library........kidding. But to answer your question, if you were my neighbor and was around to help me learn how to do something with a mill besides stare at it, I might be more interested. This machine is basically a SEIG mini-mill. You can get the exact same thing over at Grizzly for about $100 less. |
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Post by gws on Oct 2, 2014 18:29:44 GMT -5
But is it any good.....a real tool or a toy?
Is it large enough to do useful work on things bigger than model railroads? You have to be careful when you buy tools.
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Post by krwada on Oct 3, 2014 0:10:38 GMT -5
But is it any good.....a real tool or a toy? Is it large enough to do useful work on things bigger than model railroads? You have to be careful when you buy tools. Hello Greg; It depends on what you want to use it for. I would not recommend any kind of tool that has a spindle motor power of less than 1 HP for steel. The minimill you mention should work just fine for mild steel, aluminum and polymer. A lot of folks here in California use the mini-mill for turning 80% aluminum lowers into full blown AR lowers. One of the problem with the small or mini-mills is the reduced rigidity of the column. Unlike a regular knee mill, which has no column ... the mini-mill will flex a bit ... not much however. So, for most projects using mild steel or softer materials, the mini-mill should be just fine. You can work tool steel with that mini-mill. You just need to be real careful, take light cuts and use lots of lube. Now the mini-mill you point out actually has a z-axis travel embedded in the table mechanism much like a regular knee mill. This should increase the rigidity by quite a bit. Also ... please remember the following fact, (told to me by several master machinists). A weak tool in a masters hands will always turn out a superior part compared to a master tool with weak hands. |
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Post by gws on Oct 3, 2014 0:45:35 GMT -5
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My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
