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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 10:51:15 GMT -5
Today I had the time to test out the FrogLube (starters) kit. To add it up to in just one word: Awesome! I brought it home with me about 3 weeks ago from the USA and today I had the time to apply the kit. To start with, it smells great even the lady of the house does not mind it. That's a bonus here ! I needed her hair-blower to warm up the gun(parts) to apply the FrogLube grease. That raised some eyebrows..... The cleaner (solvent) is an eyeopener as well, I never had used solvents like this one either. It cleans the gun (parts) like they were in the Ultra Sonic Cleaner.....awesome. Than the paste/grease, heat up the gun (parts) a bit just enough to melt the paste, use the brushes that came with it. And wipe it slightly with the yellow cloth (that) also came with it. The advice is to repeat the paste/grease application 3 times, so I did that as well. Okay, you are busy in your man cave for a bit longer..... but who cares...... Assemble the gun with a bit of the CLP at the moving parts and you are ready to go. Immediately I noticed a smoother action than with any lube that I ever used before. Now I will test it out on the range the upcoming week and see how it holds and how easy it is to clean the gun after the FrogLube treatment. Never the less the solvent alone is an amazing product, the next time I will buy a large container of it. Did any of you used the FrogLube? I'm curious to hear if this product is really as good as everyone tells me. PJ Attachments:
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Post by krwada on Oct 18, 2014 11:47:06 GMT -5
Hello PJ; Yes ... I have a tub of the Frog Lube. It really does work very well. A little goes a very long way.
From what I can tell ... the tub of paste that I have should last me for at least 15+ years or so. With stuff like this, I cannot see how the Frog Lube company will stay in business.
The best part about the lube is that it really makes cleaning the pistols much easier. All you gotta do after a range session is wipe down the crudded up parts with a cloth or paper towel.
I usually only retreat the slides and stuff with the heat gun about once every 3 to 4 range trips or thereabouts.
The paste lube appears to be a vegetable-based wax. I know this because one of my friends is an organic chemistry professor. I asked him to run a bit of the stuff through an IR spectrometer and get the results back to me... and sure enough, we could see the IR signature for the multiple double bonds from a wax. I believe the minty smell is probably some menthol or camphor that is added to the mix as a marketing thing.
The other thing that I found out about the Frog lube is that it is NOT a very good protectant. In that if you are counting on the stuff for long term storage or are near salty marine environments ... it will not protect as well as the regular CLP.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 2:14:13 GMT -5
Hello Ken, Thanks for sharing your experiences. I tried to look for long term storage conditions for the FrogLube, but could not find any information about it. I'm happy that you mentioned it, now I know not to do so.
PJ
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Post by dangun on Oct 23, 2014 13:31:10 GMT -5
Well darn! I was going to post about this stuff in the next few days. Ken you know me I have to really like it or I won't endorse it. Well I love this stuff. So far I have only used it on my match rifles and one IDPA gun. Awesome stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 1:11:36 GMT -5
I did test it last week with my 1911/45ACP and used up 120 rounds (Red Dot & 230gr FMJ's). Came back home and just a modest wipe over the entire gun and it was clean as it was before. Even the barrel needed just a modest swipe, I use the German felt VFG system and with about 3 pulls through the felt was clean (as was the barrel). To be sure I used a copper remover (Ballistol: Robla Solo Force) to see if it was really clean..... it was! Okay after that test I did the FrogLube treatment again for the barrel since I was soaking the barrel in the Ballistol copper remover.
This product lives up to it's name !
PJ
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 4:42:15 GMT -5
Yesterday evening again I put the FrogLube through a test. Last week I did test it with 120 rounds 230 FMJ’s on top of RedDot. I was curious to see if any copper fouling would be present, so I cleaned it with the Ballistol Robla Solo Force (a very strong copper solvent) and I did hardly could believe that there was no copper residue what so ever. So I retreated the barrel with FrogLube (the frame and slide still with the 1st FrogLube treatment) and did an other test. This time with a load that always resulted in quit some powder residue and copper fouling. It’s a 200gr HP Copper Plated bullet on top of Vectan-BA10 powder. But not with just 120 rounds, no...... this time with 200 rounds! Having fun with shooting at steel plates. Once back home I again took the gun apart and this is the direct result, no cleaning, no wiping of with a cloth what so ever. This is astonishing it looks like I fired just a couple rounds and not 200! Where does all the dirt go? I hardly can believe this!!!! I use the VFG (German) cleaning felts to clean the barrel. After a first wipe with a cloth through the barrel I followed it by about 4 pulls through with a VFG felt wad. The wad was pretty clean (see the picture). Again also this time I could not detect any copper residue after the first visual inspection and after testing it with the Ballistol Robla Solo Force still no significant copper residue to spot, incredible! Okay.... needless to say that I more and more like the FrogLube ! PJ.
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Post by ed alger on Oct 29, 2014 20:05:02 GMT -5
FrogLube looks intriguing!
Could a recommendation be made for FrogLube solvents,lubes, sprayers, CLP, etc? I'd perhaps like to order once and save on shipping? There are several different container forms for the same material... Ed.
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Post by gws on Oct 29, 2014 21:06:29 GMT -5
FrogLube is beginning to look like a product that may make it to hall of fame status. I'll have to find some! Thanks for the report PJ! I'll return the favor......Another product worth fighting over is a wax that museums use to preserve finishes of all kinds for long periods of time....wood or metal, called Renaissance Wax. Midway USA is even carrying it now, but it originates in Europe or England. Gee PG, I think this is a good product the we on the other side of the pond have to pay more for than you will. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Wax
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Post by krwada on Oct 30, 2014 10:28:30 GMT -5
Hello Ed; Yes, the Froglube company makes a liquid version of their product. I use the liquid as a bore conditioner. After cleaning the bore, (with Wipeout accelerator and Wipeout patch-out of course); I run a patch of the liquid Frog lube through the bore of my firearms.
I have found that using the Frog lube as a bore conditioner makes cleaning the bore very easy to do and is very gentle on the bore.
I have not used any brushes on the bore now for almost a year. I still keep my nylon bore brushes in my cleaning kit "just in case" ... There really has been no need for using them anymore.
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Post by krwada on Oct 30, 2014 10:30:21 GMT -5
Hello Greg; Yes; I have a big tub of the Renaissance Wax ... or "Museum Wax" as it is normally called.
This stuff is most excellent at preserving finishes ... especially on the firearms. My wife purchased a big tub of it so she could use it on her furniture. It now sits in the shop next to my firearms work area.
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Post by gws on Oct 31, 2014 11:04:00 GMT -5
I believe the two products may prove to be side by sides. Two major parts of a smart gun maintenance kit. I like the idea of lube that has staying power.....that makes future cleaning easier.
Wax for sure for stocks, not sure which product would be best for preventing fingerprint rust.....time will tell. Frog Lube for internals it appears.
BTW, I noticed MidwayUSA has it on "sale" in their flyer and one version on "clearance". I put parentheses to indicate the sales are not always....check prices elsewhere too.
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Post by krwada on Oct 31, 2014 11:19:50 GMT -5
Usually, I just use one of those silicone cloths.
I was thinking about going out and purchasing the silicone impregnated sheep's wool. I have heard that this product works very well to get into all those nooks and crannies on the surface of the firearm.
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Post by ed alger on Oct 31, 2014 16:50:41 GMT -5
I've read FrogLubes instructions and viewed the various videos and they say to heat the metal and apply the CLP. Then after a few minutes, wipe the surfaces clean.
The FrogLube site bears this instruction:
5. "Lubricate per manufacturers instruction. FrogLube will work dry or wet. Note: In hot/dusty or extreme cold, follow manufacturers directions for use in extreme environmental conditions. "
I'm waiting on a return call from FrogLube about this. It surprises me as first they say apply the CLP and then wipe it dry. Then they say to "Lubricate per manufacturers"... I assume they mean to lube with FrogLube CLP?
I'm concerned about applying FrogLube CLP to various parts where it might migrate to springs, firing pins, etc, gumming things up?
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