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Post by et1 on Nov 10, 2014 8:24:26 GMT -5
Being from the old school of verbally and written communication getting into cell phone usage was not easy. Then of course having to again learn how to operate the device drove me nuts for a while until certain basics were understood. After learning simple operations there are advanced levels such as using voice operation, GPS, conference call and call forwarding just to mention a few.
Don’t get me wrong as I see a lot of good usage with the cell phone of today but have also seen the results of misusage that has caused grief. Not to mention there appears to be a dependency and addiction developing. I always believed mankind had control of new electronic technology but now it doesn’t appear so. I have no idea where this headed and that does concern (not frighten) me in a way. Today we deal with threats such as chemical addictions, diseases and terrorism but is new electronic technology also becoming a threat when misused?
It is good to be in touch with others when an important matter arises especially with family or in some cases business necessities. For me I just carry a cell phone when I’m away from home and it get’s parked when I return. My land line then assumes the role what it was intended for. Originating from an older generation the younger generation probably believes I’m losing it or fear of what is coming. Maybe so but what I won’t surrender is control of my life (individualism) to any electronic device.
Ed
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Post by bob on Nov 10, 2014 9:33:17 GMT -5
ET, I agree with you. I have had one for 20 yrs and really don't like them however I need one as there are no phones at all where I normally work,undeveloped or remote areas, and I need communications. As with you at home phone is off,away from my truck recreationally or socially phone is off!
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Post by dangun on Nov 10, 2014 10:13:32 GMT -5
Ed, I have and frequently use my smart phone. I have had to adapt to using it as it has proven to be an awesome tool both in the work place and in my personal life. I am maybe one of the few avid users that you will not see walking down the street starring at it constantly.I will not become a smart phone zombie. I believe face to face interaction when possible. I might add that I have not had a landline in over 15 years as having 2 numbers was costly for me and inconvenient for those trying to reach me. Your concerns maybe well founded yet I have experienced more benefits than setbacks due to their use. There are several people in my circle of people that I communicate with that get upset with me if I don't answer a text or an email right away. I simply tell them that if they have something that requires my immediate attention then they should call me or better yet come see me in person when possible. It has always been difficult for me to gauge a persons attitude, mood from the written word. So I prefer to talk to them either by phone or in person. By doing that I feel I gain a better understanding of what is being discussed.
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Post by et1 on Nov 10, 2014 11:14:41 GMT -5
Bob
We seem to have a lot in common with thoughts on cell phone usage. When I interact socially or am out hunting where I don’t want to be disturbed the cell phone is turned off. The only time I break that rule is when someone close to me is in dire straits and may need my help or presence. Example: If someone is close to me and in the hospital with a condition that could worsen or become life threatening I would then want to be immediately notified.
Dangun
I too prefer personal interaction as much as possible when communicating with someone. Texting has been often referred to as immediate email but I avoid this aspect of a cell phone as much as possible. This distraction especially behind the wheel of a vehicle can have some serious consequences. I have seen some people so focused on their cell phone they walk into other people or immovable objects. When this happens I have to shake my head not because of what just happened but the continuation of this focus. Just unbelievable.
Again I agree cell phones have a purpose and fill a needed role with communication but when not properly used then look out that you are not on the secondary receiving end. That’s one conference call I don’t want to be part of.
Ed
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Post by gws on Nov 10, 2014 12:02:07 GMT -5
Interesting things these cell phones! I would not want to be without mine, but I do hate texting....even if it does have a purpose. I was complaining to my wife about an acquaintance always texting me and considering that act communicating. when it wasn't. (IOW I rarely look for texts so I don't see his texts until usually too late for his purpose) Well, she let me know that texting saves her a lot of time! You see she is over 6 or 7 women in a church organization, and often she needs to "communicate" a thing to all of them. The choice is to call each one separately or text all at once. The way that works is an understanding between each of them that they check for texts several times a day, and they text her back confirmation of message received. So OK, I can see that.....except that the fellow mentioned above doesn't realize (or maybe he does) that being hard of hearing I don't often hear a text coming in, and I forget to check for them (not wanting one in the first place.....being a big klutz with trying to type on those little Iphones). Sigh....memory and hearing....I need a hearing aid.....so expensive....but if they had a "memory aid," I'd pay whatever they asked! I remember very well trying to run a construction business without a phone or a radio. So much time was wasted behind the wheel just to get to a phone, or doing things that could happen more easily with a call.....and thanks be to God that CB radio isn't all we mortals have to communicate with!!!
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Nov 10, 2014 12:11:36 GMT -5
Honestly I WOULDN'T HAVE A CELL PHONE IF IT WASN'T FOR MY KIDS!!!!!!!!!!! I do not give customers my cell # anymore because it tended to get abused by those that had it. Drives the owner crazy that I don't have a smart phone and do not give customers my cell #. But I told him if he wants me to have a smart phone and give out a cell # he needed to provide them.
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Post by poohzilla on Nov 10, 2014 12:48:01 GMT -5
Mine sits on my desk most of the time. If I anticipate needing it, I take it with me. Other than a very few, who use it as a backdoor, I take the position that I got the thing to make calls (like if I'm running late, I can let the Court know, and no one gets their blood pressure up-especially me !) I refuse to let it intrude into my personal life, as well. It is a plain phone. I'm not doing texting, as people expect immediate responses, and maybe I'm not always willing to provide those.
I see the look of horror on students's faces when I announce at the beginning of each semester that my classroom is a "gizmo-free zone". I tell them that I simply don't want to see the things, and will do an Administrative Failure form on anyone I see even peeking at them. There's a time and a place for everything !
I may get the Reactionary of the Day Award for this post !
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Post by hacker54 on Nov 10, 2014 13:15:08 GMT -5
Ah the cell phone that wonderful piece of technology that is a God sent and a pain in the butt at the same time. Yes I do have and use mine but I don't do a lot of the text this as I don't care to. Now I do get text messages now from my county communication center to go along with my pager when my department gets dispatched to an emergency. I use it when out by myself to let the family know where I'm at and if they need me. As Pooh stated there is a time and place for them.
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Post by et1 on Nov 10, 2014 16:34:31 GMT -5
I guess I have more pointed out the negative of a cell phone in this thread and do agree with others there are positive points to also consider. A positive for me is being able to have internet and access to my email account to stay in touch with what is happening when on the road. I basically don’t need to carry a bulky lab-top computer anymore. The only thing I still need is an electrical outlet or vehicle attachment accessory to recharge the battery.
To be honest I’m amazed at what cell phones can now do as I recently got into the manual for mine. Originally when I sought a cell phone my requirement was it to be rugged for the outdoors and to work under all weather conditions especially when raining. It was suggested the Galaxy Rugby-LTE would be my optimum choice so I went with that recommendation. What I was not prepared for was all its capabilities.
GWS I know what you mean about using a small keyboard with large fingers and constant corrections. Even using voice dictations there are a lot of words that need to be manually corrected. The one feature I have enjoyed learning about and utilizing is assigning different ringtones for different callers. With this option I already know who is calling before I even grab my cell phone. This then gives me the option of deciding whether I need to stop what I’m doing to respond or let it wait till later. Wish my land line had this option.
Last winter we had a good snow storm that knocked out power and phone lines for a short while. What I did find comforting that with the cell phone help was not far away if the need arose.
Ed
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Post by gws on Nov 10, 2014 16:43:35 GMT -5
Ha, HA! That probably hits the really advanced students the hardest.....with their Ipads and all.....or do you exclude those. Whiz kids I know going to school, use them the take notes! Heck their whole lives are on those things! On youth nite in my Church, the adult leaders went around the building collecting phones, ipod, elec. game boys, and anything else electronic. Then they locked them in an office file cabinet until the activity was over. They quickly learned to leave 'em home.
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Post by poohzilla on Nov 10, 2014 16:54:22 GMT -5
GWS- I occasionally get a blank look when I lay down the law, and usually add the assertion that unless there's a military officer following behind with nuclear launch codes, no one needs to be that connected for a couple of hours. Woot !
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Post by gws on Nov 10, 2014 17:30:45 GMT -5
GWS- I occasionally get a blank look when I lay down the law, and usually add the assertion that unless there's a military officer following behind with nuclear launch codes, no one needs to be that connected for a couple of hours. Woot ! nuclear launch codes? that's harsh. No room for wiggle there is there. You have to have more patience with them than I do......I haven't figured out how to do that yet. I admit that might be worth learning. My patience is fine with some things....my Iphone isn't one of them. Anyone have the Isnipe app......
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Post by bob on Nov 10, 2014 19:25:03 GMT -5
Dan, your point about the impersonal email or texting is my feeling also especially about important communications where you need their personality to come through. Greg, You and I seem to be in the same boat regarding the cell phone a necessary evil. I remember a time when an order for materials would occupy 2-3 hr. to get to a phone and back to the job site. After one particularly severe storm here I used 360 minutes in 2 days even used both (truck mount and hand held) at the same time coordinating some activities glad to have had them.
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Post by et1 on Nov 10, 2014 19:59:32 GMT -5
GWS I can understand your lack of patience concerning your cell phone. For me it was originally intimidation of screwing things up and possible frustration resulting from that. I actually discovered on my own how to alter and even add new ringtones to my phone. When my long time friend who I’ve hunted a lot of Canada Geese with calls his ringtone are geese honking. My other hunting buddy I have assigned a ringtone of a wild turkey gobbling. One of my first-time hooking up my phone to my computer to download pictures I noticed a separate file labeled ringtones. Knowing this I went to a few different websites that had free ringtones and downloaded them to my computer. From there I then transferred the free ringtones to my phone’s ringtone file. Here is an example of 1-location. www.tones7.com/ringtones/dance/Once on my cell phone it was simple setting my default ringtone for the one I selected from the list now available. On my address book for contacts I select the contact, scroll down to ringtone, tap on default and a list of ringtones for selection pops up. Scroll through and tap on the ringtone you want and then tap on Save. I’m done. Now that I have recently downloaded a proper manual for my cell phone I hope to take advantage of certain apps and try to get wireless communication to my computer and printer if possible. No hurry to jump on this part as winter time arrives there will be more free time to learn and utilize what I have at my finger tips. Ed
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Post by dangun on Nov 10, 2014 21:20:17 GMT -5
Greg I look into the isnipe app but it for igadgets. I use android so Im out.
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Post by gws on Nov 10, 2014 21:44:01 GMT -5
Greg I looked into the isnipe app but it's for igadgets. I use android so Im out. We were just talking about the evil necessity for cell phones. Same goes for Icrap. I really do hate having to learn to think like Apple engineers. IMO they've never been that great at designing intuitive commands or buttons that don't push by themselves, and I've been thinking about moving over to Samsung, but now, that depends......for example: I have a little Amazon Kindle Fire HD. Just about perfect for holding a reloading data base to use on the bench.....but alas, not one worthwhile app for handloaders is made for it. On Ipads, on the other hand, they are plentiful. (my wife has the large Ipad in the family.....yeah, I gave it to her for Christmas )
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