7mmmountaineer
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Nov 18, 2014 10:31:06 GMT -5
We all know Dan uses Sharp Shoot R Wipe Out Patch Out with their Accelerator. But I use a few other products to go along with those and for some lessor cleaning jobs. I currently use more Bore Tech Eliminator and Cu+2 or KG12 and KG1 than I do the Wipe Out Patch Out. Why because when I bought those I couldn't find the Wipe Out Patch Out. I have also gone to one piece Deweys rods with Deweys nylon bore brushes with aluminum twist wire. I have a couple different jag sets that I use one set I do not know the manufacturer but they are a high density pvc plastic and I love them for final patching haven't tried them with solvents just yet I also have all aluminum jags by Tipton I think they were a gift so that's a guess. I have both a Deweys and a Pro Shot bore guide and personally prefer the Deweys. I finally broke down and ordered a gun vice for myself which for some reason I have been putting off. Yes I do still use a few old stand byes Hoppes #9 and their Copper Eliminator, Rem Oil, I still have and use one old 3 piece bronze cleaning rod (just ordered a Dewyes one pice to cove 22-25 cal), hand cut flannel patches, brake clean and for cleaning all my brushes hot soapy Dawn water. What are some of the products you fellas use?
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Post by krwada on Nov 18, 2014 11:52:09 GMT -5
I still have a bottle of Hoppe's #9. I also have both the KG1 and KG12 solvents.
However; most of the cleaning of the bore I use the Wipeout accelerator and patch-out solvents using a nylon slot with flannel patches only.
I have read in many places that those brushes will wear the crown of the muzzle if used too aggressively.
For now ... staying away from any brushes and only using the accelerator + patch-out seems to be working fine for me.
Now, I gotta get me some of that brake cleaner that Dan talked about for my actions!
For some reason ... I do not think I will ever get rid of the Hoppe's though. Maybe I am being sentimental?
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dangun
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Post by dangun on Nov 18, 2014 13:47:57 GMT -5
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Post by poohzilla on Nov 18, 2014 14:13:17 GMT -5
Dan, I love Hoppe's #9--I use it as aftershave.
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Post by hacker54 on Nov 18, 2014 17:46:51 GMT -5
Well for me I have an ample supply Hoppe's #9 and some of their Bench Rest 9. This should get me through for a while. OK to go the route of the do-it yourself their is a recipe on the LASC's site on how to make your own bore cleaner. I believe I posted the link before so I'll post it here also. It is called Ed's Red Bore Cleaner. www.lasc.us/EdsRedBoreCleaner.htm |
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Post by mule on Nov 18, 2014 21:20:13 GMT -5
I also use Ed's Red. In addition to bore cleaning I have found it useful removing plastic wad fouling from choke tubes, as a penetrating oil and as a fire starter.
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Post by gws on Nov 18, 2014 23:44:24 GMT -5
I've been around a long while......if my garage doesn't smell like Hoppes #9, it don't smell right. Admittedly it's not as strong as it used to be.....but it isn't as poisonous as it used to be either. I think Wipe-Out is a good product, and I've used ammonia-based Sweets for a long time too, but I'm thinking about trying something new. Maybe the Montana Extreme products. Maybe I'll add a touch of Hoppes to smell.  BTW Dan, if you like Hoppes for brakes, maybe you're using some of the old powerful stuff.  I have a friend who swears by Birchwood Casey "Bore Scrubber"....and that's all he uses. I'm not so convinced of that stuff...anyone else use it? |
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7mmmountaineer
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Nov 19, 2014 8:26:41 GMT -5
gws I have used that Birchwood Casey before it is ok but their are other products that work better. I have also used some of the Montana Extreme products and liked them as well. It might sound odd but I for some reason only use Wipe Out Patch Out on the badly fouled rifles (stupid I know) but I don't want to run out and not be able to find it again. No one local can get it so I have to order it on line which I did last week 2 bottles of it and the accelerator. I also really like the Bore Snake products I use a lot they may not work as fast as Wipe Out Patch Out but I think they do just as good a job. It just seems to me I have more and more people coming to me asking how I keep my guns clean and accurate. I wont complain its a few extra bucks every time they do.
Dan the stuff we run at the shop in our parts cleaner dose have a touch of that Hoppe #9 smell to it  .............. |
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Post by dangun on Nov 19, 2014 9:25:45 GMT -5
I used and tested just about every bore cleaner that was available on the US market up to a couple of years ago. When I was asked to try the Sharp Shoot R Wipe out Patch out w/accelerator I was spectacle but I really like the idea that it was design So I cleaned a gun with my then favorite Cleaner. When I was getting nothing but clean patches I tried the Wipe out Patch out. I ran a patch of accelerator followed with a patch of patch out wipe out, and waited 20 minutes. Then a dry patch and it came out bright blue. I have since tried this with many other cleaners as well as reversing the order of use but everytime the Sharp Shoot R product comes out on top. There is always a possibility that a product exists that I might like better or that works better. I have already spent so much time and money in the past trying new products only to be disappointed by the manufacturers claims. Also when I read other products instructions that include the use of a bore brush, that tells me that their product also requires an aggressive mechanical action. Why? Montana Extreme products tells you to scrub the bore with a nylon brush for 20 minutes. Who's working harder you or their product? Most products tell you not to let their product soak overnight. Why? Because it is harmful to your gun. Just sayin! Here is some interesting reading on Barrel break in. Scroll down the page to Barrel Break In Document #70 |
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Nov 19, 2014 10:27:44 GMT -5
Dan I am to the point now were I let the product do the work. I have never used a bore brush with the Bore Snake Cu+2 except the time I forgot my jags lol looked kinda funny using just a cleaning rod and a doubled up flannel patch at the end but it worked. The wipe out patch out is a very good product and I will from time to time follow my Bore Snake products with it just to see and I would say 90% of the time I get no color but when I do I know the wipe out patch out just got that last stubborn bit of copper out.
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Post by gws on Nov 19, 2014 13:30:00 GMT -5
I've used the original Wipe Out, but this newer Wipe Out Patch sounds much better. I've never tried accelerant. The info from Dan's link to their site convinced me to try it. If they can really clean a barrel in 2 or 3 patches I'd say they have a miracle. We will see. and yeah, I understand really crusty barrels need two or three nights of soaking....understandable. If that bottleneck and least favorite part of shooting is that dramatically improved, I will gladly do away with the "smell!" About time....will gladly give up Sweets and #9. |
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Post by dangun on Nov 20, 2014 12:03:03 GMT -5
I can't comment on the original wipe out but the product that is out now works and takes very little effort. The accelerant makes it an even faster process. When I first started using it I had to soak my barrels overnight a couple of times to cut through the layers that other cleaners had left behind. With new barrels and proper break in this product has kept them looking new. I clean the barrel in-between relays and at the end of a match I run a mop soaked with accelerant followed by a mop soaked with wipe out patch out, pack everything up and head to the house. Once I get home I run a couple of tight fitting dry patches threw followed by a semi wet patch and I'm done. I highly advise anyone using this product to read and following the instructions. Too many times I have heard people complain that a product didn't work for them, only to find that they used it their way instead of following the instructions.
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Post by ed alger on Nov 20, 2014 20:33:52 GMT -5
I've used bore mops and have never been satisfied with their use?
I'd like to hear what brands of mops are preferred and what sizes by caliber?
Do you find that mops are "cleanable"?
Seems like brands differ in size for the same caliber. I'd like to settle on one brand or another.
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Post by dangun on Nov 20, 2014 22:11:36 GMT -5
ED,
The mops are used to apply the accelerant and the wipe out patch out. They are not intended to be used for fouling or copper removal. once these 2 liquids have been applied and after a 20 minute wait properly sized jag and patch are used to remove fouling and copper.
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Post by ed alger on Nov 22, 2014 10:28:13 GMT -5
Dan, do you always use a bore-guide when you clean your barrels, whether at the range or at home??
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Post by dangun on Nov 23, 2014 8:01:51 GMT -5
Ed,
Yes, I believe it is important to use a properly fitted bore guide when cleaning barrels. A bore guide aligns the rod so that the sharp edges within the action and chamber to prevent scraping the cleaning rod and to prevent the rod from hanging up or dinging those edges. Many have ports cut in them to allow you to add solvent, oil, or other cleaning solutions. That just helps prevent those fluids from get into areas where it is unwanted.
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Post by gws on Nov 24, 2014 12:51:40 GMT -5
Well, I waded through all the print......wow.....I thought my brother-in-law was the king of repetition! Anyhow I think I got it. Eventually he decided a nylon brush was the superior way of filling a bore with "patch" or "accelerator". (holds more product he says and makes "Patch" suds up) Ah, that also means he sells more product. But if Dan thinks a mop is good enough it probably is. I bought both Patch and Accelerator at Sportsman's Warehouse. Shot my weekly allowance to hell. Will try it out this week. Mops aren't cheap either, so..... Curious about Ed's question about cleaning mops. Dan, how do you do it? I've always soaked them in lacquer thinner. Then washed 'em in dish soap and water. As for bore guides, I guess I'm old fashioned. (Also I don't shoot a fraction of what Dan does) Anyway, if I were to repent, what's the best guide for the money.....what's junk and what's overkill? Dan? |
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Post by ed alger on Nov 24, 2014 20:35:53 GMT -5
GW, my preference for bore guides is those made by Mike Lucas in Lexington S.C. They are 2x the cost of generic guides but Mike will make them to your spec.
Ya, Dan, how do you clean the bore mops?
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My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
