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Post by hacker54 on Mar 3, 2015 21:42:18 GMT -5
To the group that have 1911's and carry them. How do you prefer to carry: (1) Condition One cocked and locked with chambered round (2) Condition Two hammer down on chambered round (3) Condition Three hammer down on empty chamber? I do prefer Condition One but would like a holster that would have a thumb break that would block the hammer while carrying it. I was able to pick up an used holster a Bianchi .45 AUTO #2. The strap comes over the top to snap at the side of the holster and also acts as a hammer block. Anyone have suggestions for a holster that would fit my criteria and not break the bank. So far I'm looking at "BLACKHAWK HOLSTERS" their line and some others. I like one that cover the trigger and the used Bianchi does not. If this holster covered the trigger and had a thumb break that acted as a hammer block also it be great.
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bob
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Post by bob on Mar 3, 2015 23:21:09 GMT -5
Gary: Uncle Mike has one that may fit your needs,it also has accommodation for an extra magazine. Midway has them for about $28.00.
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Post by hacker54 on Mar 4, 2015 0:29:38 GMT -5
Thanks Bob. I did some web surfing and found a list of holster manufactures that I'll be going through. I do like to see what's out there.
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Post by bob on Mar 4, 2015 12:23:35 GMT -5
I have the Uncle Mikes that I described and find it very comfortable to wear and easy to use with my 1911. It may not satisfy as a CCW holster but I'm not concerned with that.
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Post by hacker54 on Mar 4, 2015 13:32:57 GMT -5
I'm also looking at the Fobus line of holsters as I do have one for my S&W Sigma. I sort of wish that Bianchi still had their Ranger line of holsters. Have three of those all for revolvers but they sure are comfortable to wear.
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Mar 4, 2015 20:10:40 GMT -5
Gary I have never felt comfortable with carrying locked and cocked. If you ask me just to many variables that can go wrong. Plus I actually sold my 1911 and one M&P 40 because I never found a holster that I thought was comfortable for them. I do currently have a Blackhawk that I like for my Ruger SR40 but I still mostly carry a wheel gun.
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Post by bob on Mar 4, 2015 20:24:24 GMT -5
I carry my 1911 loaded with the hammer in the safety detent about half cocked, my S&W59 is defcon 2. The rest are revolvers and are also defcon 2,as are all other firearms in my house.
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Post by gws on Mar 4, 2015 20:33:46 GMT -5
I used to carry it #1. I don't carry it anymore. I'm smaller than average, and it's bigger than average....hard as hell to conceal. When I carry, I carry a small .40 S&W Kahr. mag in, one chambered. But I only carry late at night when I have to go out. And I try to make that a rare happening. Nothing happens here in the daylight.....yet.
If I lived in L.A. it would be different. In ten years here it will be different. Mexican Cartel activity is increasing in my area, being a north/south route to Denver, and away from the watched interstates.
I love 1911's and still will buy a Kimber with a round butt, and short barrel. I still prefer a .45, but I also have a Ruger SR40 I practice with.....its bigger but if I can find the right conceal holster, I will replace the Kahr with that. 15 round mag +1 is compelling. I also have the hots for the new Ruger SR45.
I have a Blackhawk Serpa for my full sized Kimber. It's not a concealed model. I don't especially like the retention feature....hard for me to use. Maybe they have improved it by now.
I'm tempted to try the Versa-Carry or Crossbreed holsters. Anyone have experience with those? (brother-in-law swears by the Versa-Carry.)
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Post by dangun on Mar 6, 2015 7:42:17 GMT -5
I carry a Kimber Ultra Carry II condition one using this Clip Don't need no stinking holster! The 1911 is still one of the fastest handguns to carry. It is as safe as any other handgun. Thumb safety, backstrap safety, what more do you want? JMHO but carrying a 1911 in any condition other than condition one leaves the person carrying it vulnerable. Again this is all JMHO and I've heard all the arguments for every carry condition but it's just easier for me with the way I have trained most of my life. When I draw the safety comes off. It's muscle memory no thought to it, it just happens. No need to reach for a half cocked hammer and no need to rack a slide. Just sayin! |
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Post by gws on Mar 6, 2015 10:54:52 GMT -5
Yeah the Clip is the closest thing to Mexican Carry only a lot safer! It has its advantages to be sure. Also has a few disadvantages......one is it's slower to "reholster", two it can shift a bit, but it's a pretty cheap and viable option. Some say its not for carrying #1? You obviously disagree.  I carried the Kahr with a crotch rocket once (my nickname). It was fast and totally concealable, but it limited me on what I could wear. The wrong pants and it could hang on draw. For me, not for 1911's. (no, the family jewels were not in danger  ) If I can find a link I'll add it. Not the usual nylon crotch pockets, this one was light leather simi-fitted and you draw by lifting a connected cell phone case the only thing that shows. Your gun come straight up inside your belt. It was very fast but like the clip, not so fast to re-holster. |
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Post by dangun on Mar 6, 2015 11:34:21 GMT -5
I've never been concerned about the speed at which I can re-holster. I have never had a need. In fact I think re-holstering should be slow, careful and deliberate so as not to shoot yourself during the process. As far as shifting goes mine doesn't move, between my jeans and the gun belt I wear there is enough thickness there to keep it all tight enough not to move yet still able to draw it fast enough that I feel comfortable with it. I also have one of the holsters you are talking about. I have only used it on a couple of occasions, it seemed to me to be uncomfortable but I guess I would get used to it if I used it enough.
When it boils down to it, it is all a matter of personal preference. What works for me may not work for Chuck or Ken. Whatever method of carry someone chooses, they need to be confident and comfortable with it.
Funny you call it Mexican carry in Florida we call it gangster carry. LOL
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Post by reddragon on Oct 11, 2015 13:31:34 GMT -5
Most people I've spoken with on the subject prefer condition 1. I worked for the Police in the Navy and we were trained by the Marines in all things 45. We always carried condition three. The reason is you should train to always rack the slide when bringing the weapon up to fire, the reason for this is the safety is already off and by the time you are aiming the weapon it is ready to go. The worst thing that can happen is you eject a live round because you had one chambered to begin with. Secondly we were taught when the weapon did not fire to rap the mag and rack the slide "tap and rack" notice the similarity between these two teachings. Third if you had a stove pipe you eject the mag and rack the slide, replace the mag and rack again. The problem with this set up is you get one less available round at start up but if you try to shoot without taking off the safety (a move that requires thought and precision motor skills) you may not have the opportunity to discharge the weapon at all in a fire fight.
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Post by SnapShot on Oct 13, 2015 15:57:15 GMT -5
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Post by hacker54 on Oct 13, 2015 21:00:43 GMT -5
Larry,
Thanks for sharing the article. Very informative.
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) If I can find a link I'll add it. Not the usual nylon crotch pockets, this one was light leather simi-fitted and you draw by lifting a connected cell phone case the only thing that shows. Your gun come straight up inside your belt. It was very fast but like the clip, not so fast to re-holster.
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
