gws
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Post by gws on Aug 8, 2015 17:12:34 GMT -5
Remember when a self important EPA official, stormed into the ghost buster building and shut of the "containment grid" and let all the ghosties out? That sort of thing really happened above Durango Colorado. No ghosts mind you, just moronic know it all EPA people who "cleaning up a mine" broke the dam on a containment pond, and let all the liquid tailings flow into stone creek, then to the Animas river. Here's a picture of the Animas river as it normally looks this time of year when it's low: And another picture of the Animas river as it looks yesterday and today: ! So who's going to protect us from the Environmental Protection Agency? My New Mexico city is 60 miles south of where the spill occurred (a few miles north of Durango Colo).....the orange/yellow plume arrived here this morning....now the "plume" is 60 miles long. The Animas is my city's water supply! Also this location is where the Animas River flows into the San Juan river....so it's turning orange too. In a day or two the disaster will hit the Colorado River that the San Juan flows into. Officials say the tailings is full of heavy metals (they admit to arsenic and lead) from the old Gold Mine......I wonder if that's all? They mined Uranium once in Durango Colorado. Uranium tailings are......yellow.
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Post by hacker54 on Aug 8, 2015 19:53:29 GMT -5
Greg, Well looks like contaminated water to me. Your city's water supply is to contaminated. Who is the EPA going to fine for this mess oh wait it was them that caused this mess. Also looks like another bill for the taxpayers to pay for a government screw up!! I sure do hope they hold responsible those who caused this. Fire them and fine them for the mess.
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bob
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Post by bob on Aug 8, 2015 23:48:28 GMT -5
Greg, That is absolutely incredible and so typical of our present government's ineptitude. There is no fine nor punishment sufficient for this criminal negligence. My heart goes out to you and your neighbors up and down the river.
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gws
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Post by gws on Aug 9, 2015 15:59:19 GMT -5
Anyone for some free orange juice.......I wasn't exaggerating was I. We got "tang"ed. Aztec NM resident pictured below doesn't think she'll taste it. 8 miles south to Farmington, where the Animas pours into the San Juan River. San Juan was already muddied yesterday morning from a long rainstorm the night before. Plus officials are dumping twice the normal water into the San Juan from Navajo Dam spillway to help dilute it. Now I know how a water supply can be destroyed in two days. It's not the color that's dangerous.....the most dangerous contamination you can't see....and it will remain for a long time after the orange plume is gone. The only good news? All this is 20 miles below the San Juan River's Quality Waters Trout Fishing Mecca, where there is estimated to be 20,000 trout per mile. Great fishing but probably not until the hasty double water release from Navajo Dam is trottled back.
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bob
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Post by bob on Aug 9, 2015 16:47:53 GMT -5
Surprised the plastic bottle is containing that "Orange juice".
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gws
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Post by gws on Aug 9, 2015 23:15:25 GMT -5
Now the rumors going around is that the EPA did it on purpose....to get rid of the containment pond....saying it wasn't that poisonous? I vote we string them up....they are from DC. 5 years ago they were making waves trying to save an endangered fish (a sucker...trout egg eaters) that previously the gov. purposely poisoned to help the trout to survive.......now they try to kill everything?
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7mmmountaineer
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Aug 10, 2015 6:26:22 GMT -5
Greg we had something like this happen here about 18 months ago. A containment tank holding MCHML a chemical who's real name I will not even try to spell failed and into the water supply for the greater Charleston area. The EPA claimed it wasn't harmful to humans even at the high of 575 parts per million and all that was needed was a good flushing of the water system to get rid of the licorice smell. Well over 18 months later and I still know people that are being told not to drink or shower with their tap water. Seems this chemical which is used for cleaning coal can be very bad for you with prolonged exposure.
I would say your spill also contains high levels of Lead, Mercury, Potassium, maybe more bad stuff. I feel for you and no if the EPA did this no one will be held accountable except for the company that last worked the mine site it will all be blamed on them.
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Post by krwada on Aug 10, 2015 13:14:15 GMT -5
From what I have been reading ... The Navaho Nation is already starting the process to file a massive lawsuit. This government ineptitude is just nothing short of amazingly, mind-numbingly ... disastrously BAD!!!
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gws
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Post by gws on Aug 10, 2015 14:34:28 GMT -5
The plume of contaminants has been moving very slowly....it should reach Late Powell in a day or two. The biggest threat is that it is continuing.....not the yellow-orange water....they are treating that at the source. (With WHAT!) That means the contaminants are continuing...minus the color.....but it is still continuing. The Animas and San Juan are both American playgrounds....not to mention Lake Powell and Lake Mead. On our end the playgrounds are closed until further notice.....all the kayaking and rafting companies are out of business. Thank God the best trout fishery in the United States is 20 miles or so upstream from where the Animas dumps into it.
So outside right now the river look back to normal.....except that it isn't.....and won't be for who knows how long. Hey they've offered people who have wells along the river free shower facilities at the County Fair grounds! Big wow....until the city water reservoirs are depleted and have to be refilled......from the river? Then we are ALL out of water. More evidence is mounting that this was planned.....that they thought it a minor temporary discomfort.
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