hal8337
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Post by hal8337 on Nov 4, 2015 7:41:31 GMT -5
I have a son-in-law that loves to shoot and has shown interest in reloading so I have been at the bench plenty the last couple years. He has a Remington 700 30-06 that I reload various bullets and powder configurations as he is always buying different items when he goes shopping. All recipes are strictly by the book and nothing in the red areas. This particular gun seems to have a headspace issue as he bought a couple boxes of Winchester and fired them resulting in that distinct ring and a definite bump on the exterior of the case head area. Previous reloads with other cases have resulted in similar results with a maximum reload of 5. I bought a Wilson head space gauge a while back and use it regular on all my reloads. He recently bought a new scope and is making 300 & 500 yard shots with very good accuracy. I also reload his 243 & 223 and have no issues with them. The 30-06 shoots good except for this headspace issue. He thinks he needs to buy a new barrel. Is this a common issue that occurs with factory built rifles having a larger chamber or is it 1 in a million? This problem only surface since he is shooting reloads and not shooting factory ammo and just discarding them.
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bob
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Post by bob on Nov 4, 2015 15:40:49 GMT -5
Hal, I don't believe it's too common`however I have a Ruger M77 7X57mm that has a similar issue. I have had this rifle since '71 or '72 and I was only getting 3-5 reloads then I started neck sizing only and now get 10+ out of them, and these are stout loads. Also I use only Winchester cases.
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7mmmountaineer
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Nov 4, 2015 16:27:36 GMT -5
Hal to echo Bob I doubt this a very common issue. That said I have a sneaky feeling that this issue is their even with factory ammo. With the brass being really clean with the reload it is just a lot easier to see. Try Bob's idea of just neck sizing a few pieces of brass and see if you still have this issue. Very worst case is he will either have to set the barrel back enough so a new chamber eliminates the problem or rebarrel the rifle.
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hal8337
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Post by hal8337 on Nov 4, 2015 18:01:23 GMT -5
The neck sizing sounds like a doable plan. How many neck sizing's can you do before you have to full length size? I read somewhere that after a few neck sizing's the case will stretch and become tight to fit the chamber. Is this correct? I don't have any neck dies but sounds like something new for me to learn.
Thanks for the advice
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7mmmountaineer
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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Nov 4, 2015 19:02:58 GMT -5
Hal depending on the brass I have gotten as many as 7 cycles before having to bump the shoulder back. Then I only do a partial resizing just enough to bump the shoulder back a few 10,000ths.....
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Post by hacker54 on Nov 4, 2015 21:18:37 GMT -5
Hal, Lee makes their collet sizing die which is a neck sizing die. They are not expensive so give them a try. I use these in 30/30 Win., 308 Win. and 7mm-08 Rem. As Chuck stated if neck sizing doesn't help I would see a smith and go from there.
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bob
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Post by bob on Nov 4, 2015 23:30:26 GMT -5
Hal, As Chuck has, I also have many reloads before having to partial size. As far as getting a special neck sizing die you don't have to. Get a set of 7/8" diameter arbor shims at an industrial hardware shop or the die shim set from Brownells ( Ithink they're made by Hornady or Redding) and take your FL die and shim it to neck size only without changing the FL setting.
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