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bob Member I'm too old to be nice but never too old to learn! Posts: 1,457 Location: Northern California Member is Online	Shootings Dec 3, 2015 22:59:40 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bob on Dec 3, 2015 22:59:40 GMT -5 I wonder if someone will finally realize that laws and more laws will not stop this type of tragedy . We need the ability to defend ourselves and community, does the Second Amendment come to mind?
	I was Max in our other life,decided to try my real name. I am a general engineering contractor in northern California,I've been hand loading since '62 rifle and hand gun only. Member Cal.Deer Ass.,Ducks Unlimited, Ca.Waterfowl, CRPA.,NRA,and Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation. Also a California Hunter Education Instructor.

springfieldxdm Member Posts: 118	Shootings Dec 4, 2015 10:24:09 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by springfieldxdm on Dec 4, 2015 10:24:09 GMT -5 Hopefully they will see that this happened in California, the state likely with the most gun laws on the books already. Unfortunately I believe you guys will have several new stricter law proposed very soon.

mule
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Shootings Dec 4, 2015 17:33:57 GMT -5

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Post by mule on Dec 4, 2015 17:33:57 GMT -5

I was under the impression that 30 round mags were illegal in California. That law worked good, didn't it!

If we were truly free and able to carry anywhere we are legally allowed to be, the attackers might have to deal with some incoming. A reconsideration of their lifestyle choices might be in order.

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hacker54 Global Moderator Nothing like my COFFEE in the morning!!!! Posts: 1,502 Location: Sunbury,PA.	Shootings Dec 4, 2015 20:51:20 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by hacker54 on Dec 4, 2015 20:51:20 GMT -5 Just a FYI Cali. Sen. Boxer stated the day after this that the gun controls laws in California are working. WOW what the hell is she smoking or taking.
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bob Member I'm too old to be nice but never too old to learn! Posts: 1,457 Location: Northern California Member is Online	Shootings Dec 4, 2015 23:24:29 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bob on Dec 4, 2015 23:24:29 GMT -5 Another Congresswoman said she won't observe a moment of silence until congress does something about these shootings. Another genius!
	I was Max in our other life,decided to try my real name. I am a general engineering contractor in northern California,I've been hand loading since '62 rifle and hand gun only. Member Cal.Deer Ass.,Ducks Unlimited, Ca.Waterfowl, CRPA.,NRA,and Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation. Also a California Hunter Education Instructor.

isparky44
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Shootings Dec 4, 2015 23:35:55 GMT -5

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Post by isparky44 on Dec 4, 2015 23:35:55 GMT -5

LOL the media is making it sound like the amount of ammo they had was excessive! In my neck of the woods those numbers mean, to many of us, we are running low!

On a more serious note they are saying if your on the no fly list you shouldn't be able to buy a gun. So now the Govt would be able to put us all on a no fly list, for no apparent reason, just to keep us from buying a gun! Sounds like another "backdoor scheme" to me. Kinda like the huge ammo purchase a few years back.

Even scarier, is a reliable (does NOT wear a tin foil hat) source informed me, that we have 2 ISIS training facilities right here in MI, 1 in Coldwater, and 1 in Dearborn. Worse yet the feds have told local L.E. agencies to "leave them alone"!

Last Edit: Dec 4, 2015 23:37:50 GMT -5 by isparky44

mule
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Shootings Dec 5, 2015 9:10:23 GMT -5

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Post by mule on Dec 5, 2015 9:10:23 GMT -5

Dec 4, 2015 23:24:29 GMT -5 bob said:

Another Congresswoman said she won't observe a moment of silence until congress does something about these shootings. Another genius!

Congress can DO SOMETHING.

Repeal a bunch of laws that restrain us from protecting ourselves.

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bob Member I'm too old to be nice but never too old to learn! Posts: 1,457 Location: Northern California Member is Online	Shootings Dec 5, 2015 20:28:46 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bob on Dec 5, 2015 20:28:46 GMT -5 If only!!!
	I was Max in our other life,decided to try my real name. I am a general engineering contractor in northern California,I've been hand loading since '62 rifle and hand gun only. Member Cal.Deer Ass.,Ducks Unlimited, Ca.Waterfowl, CRPA.,NRA,and Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation. Also a California Hunter Education Instructor.

7mmmountaineer
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Shootings Dec 7, 2015 21:18:11 GMT -5

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Post by 7mmmountaineer on Dec 7, 2015 21:18:11 GMT -5

Each and ever political thing from every state house to DC blames guns for these types of shootings and they always will. So just to prove to myself once that guns were not the issue I did the following:

1) loaded my 44 mag and sat it on the side table next to my chair.

2) loaded my Mossberg 835 with 3.5" 000 buck shot sat it on the coffee table.

3) loaded my 7mm-08 and sat it on the other end table.

4) I then stood in the middle of my living room surrounded by loaded guns and dared them all to shoot me I even cussed them all out. Guess what my family thought I was an idiot but not one of those guns went off and I am still here.

This tells me that the political things have no clue that it is the human being not the firearm that commits these crimes from Columbine to last weeks horror show in Cali it took a human being to kill those people. Extremist are among us friends most are of the elected and want nothing more than to see every last one of us line up at the troth of free hand out just for the right to breathe. Worse than that is they actually think that by making more laws that are useless criminals will all of a sudden abide by them.

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bob:

My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4. Oct 5, 2024 10:16:00 GMT -5

poohzilla: Happy Ruger Day !!!!

Oct 22, 2024 5:32:15 GMT -5

SnapShot: You beat me to it, Pooh . . . but the sun comes up earlier at your house so: HAPPY RUGER DAY to all! Oct 22, 2024 15:22:06 GMT -5

hacker54:

Oct 22, 2024 17:17:04 GMT -5

poohzilla: Happy Halloween, Gents ! If you find the house where they're giving out boxes of primers, let me know, and I'll get dressed up ! crazy frog

Oct 31, 2024 7:23:05 GMT -5

bob: Yeah, Happy Halloween, I'm fortunate fortoday I don't need a costume to scare people.

Pooh I hope you find to right house . smiley-rolleyes010

Oct 31, 2024 8:44:20 GMT -5

hacker54: Pooh no primers or powder or even range brass. BTW guys this is PITA weekend. Which means we change our clocks back one hour. Yes it's a Pain In The....... Nov 1, 2024 12:17:30 GMT -5

poohzilla: Hacker, the worst part for me is trying to remember how to reset all the silly little digital clocks. They're all different, and you only do the drill once a year! Nov 2, 2024 18:22:23 GMT -5

poohzilla: Hey,gents-don't forget. Vote early and often ! united-states-flag-waving-emoticon-animated

Nov 4, 2024 19:03:21 GMT -5

bob:

I did.

Nov 4, 2024 19:57:52 GMT -5

SnapShot: I haven't had to reset a clock in over seven years . . . would have to get the manuals out if it became necessary now

Nov 5, 2024 10:37:49 GMT -5 *

SnapShot: YES . . . EVERYBODY REMEMBER TO VOTE united-states-flag-waving-emoticon-animated

Nov 5, 2024 10:39:27 GMT -5

hacker54: Yes to the vote and prayers for the proper out come. Nov 5, 2024 21:54:36 GMT -5

poohzilla: Hacker, it looks like the votes and prayers worked ! Nov 6, 2024 3:54:22 GMT -5

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America!

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poohzilla: Happy Birthday to the United States Marine Corps ! united-states-flag-waving-emoticon-animated

Nov 10, 2024 7:17:45 GMT -5

hacker54:

Nov 10, 2024 12:48:56 GMT -5

bob:

While we're at it, let us not for get to Thank a Veteran tomorrow, Veterans Day. Nov 10, 2024 17:31:14 GMT -5 *

SnapShot: YES, that's so true, Bob. And please remember guys; the flags fly at full seaff on Vererans Day! united-states-flag-waving-emoticon-animated

Nov 10, 2024 22:38:53 GMT -5

hacker54: good post united-states-flag-waving-emoticon-animated

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