poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Feb 11, 2017 18:08:09 GMT -5
This is a toss up question, although I think Bob is our resident Hornet guy-the conventional wisdom (from loading manuals) is that one uses a small rifle primer in .22 Hornet loads. I have seen stuff, I think in back issues of Handloader, that indicate that a small pistol primer is enough to make things go bang, and provides a more uniform ignition. Has anyone done this (and lived to tell about it) ? I found some cast bullets on a close out a while back, and given we're getting almost as much precipitation as California, I've been giving some thought to this.
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Post by bob on Feb 11, 2017 21:22:53 GMT -5
Pooh, as the "resident spert" on Hornet, Speer #14 does in fact use Small pistol primers in their load data stating increased velocities at safe pressures and more uniform velocities as well. I haven't tried them yet as I have an accurate load already and been busy working on the .325 WSM and work (ugh) in general. I am looking forward to trying them though.
I also seem to remember reading about that in either Handloader ao Varmint Hunter.
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Feb 13, 2017 6:32:26 GMT -5
Bob, thanks ! My Speer is only #13 (not the first I go to). I suspect I'll atay with the srp and only change one variable at a time.
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Post by jbnut on Feb 17, 2017 14:06:24 GMT -5
As Bob stated The Speer Manual used small pistol primers for their load data. They also said not to use rifle primers with their .22 Hornet data.
I've read that when using small rifle primers in the Hornet that the primer alone will start the bullet traveling down the barrel before the powder starts to burn and that's why they started to use the pistol primers. Now I can't prove any of that but that is was has been said.
I have gone to using the small pistol primers when working up loads for different bullets now. I spent a lot of time on the 40 grain V-Max Hornady bullet but I just haven't found the consistency with it that others have. To begin with the bullet is too long for the magazine with out modifications. I think this summer I'll try the 35 gr V-max again & the Speer 33 gr bullet. Just need some free time to play and free time has been pretty elusive lately.
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Post by hacker54 on Feb 17, 2017 22:26:40 GMT -5
JB,
My late hunting buddy had great results with the Hornady 35gr V-Max out of his H&R single shot. I don't recall what powder and primer he settled on but he had them clover leafing at a 100 yards.
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Post by bob on Feb 17, 2017 22:57:38 GMT -5
Pooh, that is a smart thing only changing one thing at a time. Probably why you still have (an assumption) 10 fingers also.
JB, I have had good velocity and sub MOA with 45 gr. Sierra Hornet bullets in my M77 Ruger . My No.1 is soon to become a K Hornet so I'v been just been shooting it with out paying close attention to any thing. So far all my loads have been lit with WSR primers that is about to change also,at least 'till I see hoe the Pistol primers work.
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Feb 18, 2017 17:11:09 GMT -5
Pooh, that is a smart thing only changing one thing at a time. Probably why you still have (an assumption) 10 fingers also. JB, I have had good velocity and sub MOA with 45 gr. Sierra Hornet bullets in my M77 Ruger . My No.1 is soon to become a K Hornet so I'v been just been shooting it with out paying close attention to any thing. So far all my loads have been lit with WSR primers that is about to change also,at least 'till I see hoe the Pistol primers work. Bob, all my fingers, both eyes, and never did serious damage to a gun. The only thing shot is my hearing ! |
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Post by bob on Feb 22, 2017 23:49:17 GMT -5
Pooh, and any other .22 cartridge re loader I just finished loading .22 Hornets with my RCBS competition seating die with my extra-extended shell holder,if your not using that set up,at least for single stage, your missing the boat.
That comment might be a little over the top but it relates how I felt.
The side entry for the bullet makes life easier and safer, no smashed fingers! This is aside from easy repeatablity from one cartridge to another and back.
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Post by bob on Apr 28, 2018 23:12:52 GMT -5
A little over a year ago I mentioned "my soon to be K Hornet". Well it is no longer a soon to be I now have a Ruger No.1B .22 K Hornet and a set of RCBS dies in the mail. In fire forming a dozen Winchester cases with a stout helping of CFE Blk,the friend who re-chambered it made for me, I shot one group of 5 in 4 holes in remainder all about a quater. Now I'm looking forward to shooting my Hornady brass ,neck sizing and seeing what it really will do!  |
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Post by gws on Apr 29, 2018 0:07:45 GMT -5
That sound like a real fun project! I saw a 17 caliber Hornet the other day.......I'd forgotten how darn small the Hornet was! They were telling me that they thought the 17 Hornet was waaayyy better than the 17 HMR......not surprised! I remember a .22 Hornet in my past.......like about 10 years old......shooting at a deer with it? Glad I missed! Wasn't my gun......I coulda got in some big trouble with it.  |
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Post by bob on Apr 29, 2018 0:35:23 GMT -5
Strangely enough that Hornet even the .17 is legal for deer here. Any center fire cartridge!
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Post by dangun on May 1, 2018 2:49:27 GMT -5
Wow that would get you in deep swamp water here!
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on May 1, 2018 6:28:38 GMT -5
Bob, the new Handloader came in yesterday. One of the features includes data with some of the newer powder for various Hornets. If you don't subscribe, I could scan it for you.
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on May 13, 2018 18:26:56 GMT -5
Well, all that fuss, and it appears that IMR 4227 works best of anything. Now to try it with pistol primers.
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Post by bob on May 13, 2018 22:49:01 GMT -5
Pooh, I am going to find out why I have not received mine yet! I am going to try Lil'gun again, it was supposedly the cat's meow for Hornets but my results were poor. In the .218 Bee it worked very well and is my powder of choice. The "K" is very similar to the Bee so I will give it a try. For fire forming I put together a stiff portion of 4198 with a 45Gr. Sierra bullet will see how that works out. Then I too will try the small pistol primers though I haven't had an issue with the WSR primers.
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Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
