poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Mar 12, 2018 16:47:29 GMT -5
The Lee Manual has a lot of good data-it's not my first choice, as the format just doesn't appeal to me. That aside, I do use my son's Second Edition quite a bit. There was some talk a couple of years back of a new edition coming out, and last night I took a look. It appears that rather than coming up with a new edition, they've added some data and list it as a revised 2d edition, with a gold seal or something on the front that says "2016". That one caught me by surprise, but figured I'd pass it along.
We're waiting for the next Nor'Easter. Wonderful. Hacker, that groundhog has to go !  |
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bob
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Post by bob on Mar 12, 2018 18:38:18 GMT -5
You're getting a Nor'Easter and we're getting a Nor Wester apparently there are three due in 2 this week 1 next week. I realize that normally there is no comparison but I thought I'd throw it out there.
As far as the Lee format I agree with you Pooh, though the information is good he is a little full of himself for my taste.
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gws
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Post by gws on Mar 12, 2018 20:40:37 GMT -5
I've never seen Richard Lee's Manuals. "little full of himself"? I've heard that from other sources too. My first one was Speer's.....I got along with that only for a few years, then bought Sierra's.....cuz I liked their bullets. Hornady and Nosler came much later......
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Post by hacker54 on Mar 12, 2018 22:54:51 GMT -5
Well gentlemen I have and use different manuals for reloading. Looking at each they have differing formats. Yes some are easier than others. Just like websites some are easy to navigate and others takes a while to grasp. I use them for cross reference. My best load in my 7mm-08 using Nosler's 140gr Ballistic-Tip doesn't come from their manual. I also have found that the updated manuals still have the same data from earlier manuals. I have Nosler #3 and the #7 the 7th manual still has the same data as the third in all the cartridges except for the newer powders and newer cartridges. Now I am hoping to get Speer's #15 as in this their is load data for a certain cartridge the Hodgdon won't use a certain powder because according to an email I recieved from them that powder was to slow for the cartridge and Speer uses it in said cartridge. Hoping to get this manual so I can compare from previous if any change in data.
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Post by SnapShot on Mar 13, 2018 10:05:03 GMT -5
My shop library has a large number of reloading manuals and like most of you I use them for cross reference (especially when working up a new load). To Hacker’s point they all very in format and it takes a little getting used to with some of them.
My latest addition was Western Powders, Handloading Guide (Edition 1). It provides a lot of cartridges using their powders that don’t specifically show in other manuals. They have a large selection of bullet manufactures and types throughout the load data. However, the most impressive section of this new manual is not the load data but the first nine chapters. This is one of the most comprehensive introductions and explanations of handloading “hows & whys” I have come across. The photography and text make these chapters a fantastic training aid for my NRA Metallic Cartridge Reloading class. As with most stuff we “old guys” do; reviewing these impressive chapters is a great refresher and brings basic things to mind that may have “slipped” from memory.
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Mar 13, 2018 19:11:24 GMT -5
Richard Lee was certainly an innovator-he did some interesting stuff on the way to making reloading gear more affordable and a reasonable value. However...he does come off like that kid in high school who had all the answers and wasn't interested in any discussion of them ! BtW, my go-to manuals are the Lyman regular and cast bullet editions.. Plenty of room to cross check though ! Larry, you raise a good point. We can all become creatures of habit. We internalize certain functions, and occasionally lose sight of the big picture. At least I do !  |
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My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
