bob
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Post by bob on Jun 1, 2019 22:49:58 GMT -5
Some time ago I spoke of giving an RCBS APS tool to my LGS who in turn gave it to someone in need and if memory serves I was rewarded at that time. Well the sequel to that story is, the LGS recently was helping his older friend dispose of reloading gear and he came across the bench mounted priming tool which I wanted. I got it at a price that would make Pooh jealous.............$0000.00 . Now the bad part, I had to order new primer holders from RCBS, didn't really have to but wanted new, no charge except for the phone call.  |
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Post by hacker54 on Jun 2, 2019 22:04:26 GMT -5
What goes around comes around. In your case your good deed has come full circle well done.
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gws
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Post by gws on Jun 3, 2019 8:10:28 GMT -5
Primer Holders?
You mean primer strips as pictured below....or am I missing something?
I didn't remember that you had an APS bench loader once.
You have some explaining to do if you want pea brains like me to understand......you gave it away....then decided you wanted one again?
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bob
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Post by bob on Jun 3, 2019 8:47:50 GMT -5
GW, I had the APS strip unit but I didn't care for it. For some reason it didn't seem to fit my loading method. The "new" one utilizes the primer tube and to me easier to load also it's within my comfort level, I'm old and feeble don't you know!
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Post by SnapShot on Jun 3, 2019 9:27:52 GMT -5
Bob ~Your good deed has been rewarded and things like this always make us feel good.  As to your comment on APS Strips; I had the same results. They worked as advertised but didn't seem to be a good fit to my processes. I donated my APS set-up to a range fund-raising auction some years back. AND as far as RCBS providing parts; they are a company of great service and take care of their customers. Pooh ~ Are you getting a reputation as a "conservative Shopper" ? |
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Post by gws on Jun 3, 2019 10:46:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought I remembered your dislike of APS.....which is why I was confused. Sounded as if you got it back in your first post. I do prefer a bench primer after years of hand priming.....don't care which type......mine's APS because I had the APS press.....so it did fit best for me. I understand why you guys feel as you do about APS.....its a matter of what you get used to. With my new Prochucker press I've been forced back to tubes. I use the new one, for now, for bottle neck .308 and .223, and the old APS press for pistol...45ACP. .40, and .357. That's now, mind you.....still getting to know the new press so things could change. (I have now come to realize that the only thing better than a progressive, is two progressives......sorta like the only thing better than a good single stage press, is two.  ) APS is just as convenient as tubes....(I get to compare over and over)....once you learn the system. However, IF you have a vibrating tube loader, tubes can load faster. They aren't perfect either as you can get one flipped once in a while. Does APS have a clear advantage for me? Well yes, even besides the safety one. I can load strips (or buy preloaded strips) in bulk, and store them that way indefinitely and safely. That would be like loading a 100 tubes and storing them in a drawer......yeah, not a safe idea anyone would really do. IOW's pre-loaded strips are ready to use....no loading of tubes necessary. If I could figure out a way to convert my new Pro Chucker to APS, I would.
But I can't.....design won't allow that, so I peck one at a time in the new press until I buy or make me a vibrating tube loader........or pre-prime as a part of case prep on the APS Bench Priming Tool.
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Post by SnapShot on Jun 3, 2019 12:32:09 GMT -5
Looks like you have a good system there and very well organized too.
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Post by gws on Jun 3, 2019 14:25:26 GMT -5
Well it works for me.....that said, it's not something I can control long range. If and When RCBS and CCI dump APS, as RCBS in fact dumped the Pro 2000 press, it's all a moot point. I have a loader and lots of extra strips, so I can continue to use the system for a long long time.....but no point for someone to start new.....which was why I was surprised and confused by bob's first post, knowing he wasn't a fan in the first place. See bob? What you can cause? Sorry to divert your thread....I'm zipped now. |
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Post by poohzilla on Jun 3, 2019 14:53:31 GMT -5
Ok, I confess that I was a little confused at first, but I got the hang of it, and it looks like a Happily Ever After thingie. I did find the price point attractive ! I like free stuff almost as much as Bernie Sanders !  |
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bob
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Post by bob on Jun 3, 2019 20:03:52 GMT -5
Sorry about the confusion guys, but I knew what I meant even if y'all didn't.  GW, I did appreciate the ability to load and store several strips ahead of time,there was just something that didn't jell with me and it may occur with the tube fed unit as well. Already put a spring under the lever to return the lever to a more friendly position. and you did not divert our thread. |
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Post by gws on Jun 4, 2019 8:37:23 GMT -5
Added a spring, huh. I always wondered why RCBS didn't upgrade that tool with the same features as the newer APS version.... Such as, built-in spring, variable handle angle, and even a primer stop to seat the same depth every time. Seems it would be an easy upgrade. One thing I do is keep the handle pointed straight up when not in use.....I suppose it would be easy enough to just unscrew your handle....that would work too. I do like the primer auto feed, so there is one operation instead of two, filling the primer feed cup, then seating.....slower, but still better than a hand primer by far.
Neither tool has the Universal shell holder....too bad.
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Post by bob on Aug 1, 2019 0:13:17 GMT -5
Just noticed this thread again. I put a spring under the handle to make it easier for me, however after using it some I realized why RCBS designed it without. Without the spring it "automatically" picks a primer, with my "invention" it becomes a two stage operation which I find no problem with. To keep primers flowing properly I put a wooden follower in the tube on top of the primers I like this tool now that I have used it some. It is very similar to the strip tool but suits me better, maybe just less going on visibly.
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My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
