dangun
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Post by dangun on Jun 23, 2014 9:44:15 GMT -5
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Post by krwada on Jun 25, 2014 9:47:15 GMT -5
Second place???
Now ... what ... exactly does it take to get 1st place? Those targets look like 1st place to me!
I simply cannot see what it takes to be better than what you have just displayed. Either that, or the scoring difference between 1st and 2nd must be very small.
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dangun
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Post by dangun on Jun 25, 2014 11:18:08 GMT -5
LOL I got 19 X's that's what the - number is on each target 50-5 means 50 points and 5 X's or 50-3 is 3 X's Total them up I got 19 X's total out of 25 possible. The 1st place guy got 21 X's. Beat me hands down. But this is the world in which I shoot. There is always someone that reads that wind just a little better than the next guy. Oh and the 6-1,6-2 all that means is bench #6 relay 1 or 2 or 3 and so on to 5. The score marks are if you see an X it is score 10X if it's marked 10 then it's 10 points but no X. Each relay has a total possible score of 50 points and 5 X's there are 5 relays for a total possible score of 250 points and 25 X's and that goes for each yardage being shot in the match. Most but not all matches have 2 yardages.
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gws
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Post by gws on Jun 25, 2014 11:39:54 GMT -5
Splain more......how many shots are in those holes, and explain the last target....scratching head. Also is anything timed? I know nothing about the sport.
Good shootin BTW!
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dangun
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Post by dangun on Jun 25, 2014 12:17:34 GMT -5
GWS,
There is only 1 shot per bullseye. The bottom right bullseye is the sighter. The sighter is not scored but is used to check scope settings but in my case I use it to judge hold off. You may fire as many rounds at the sighter as you wish. If more than one shot hits a scored bullseye then a 0 is recorded. Oh and yes each relay is timed you have 10 minutes to fire 5 scoring shots. That seems like forever to me. I usually start by firing at the sighter to check for hold off. Once I think I have it I shoot as fast as I can for that wind condition. Otherwise I would have to change my hold off if the wind changed. I'm usually finished with each relay in under a minute. Many people have asked why benchrest shooters hold off instead of dopping the scope. The main reason is time. If we were going to fire 1 shot then yes I would dope the scope. Learning hold off is much faster and more often than not more accurate depending on your skill.
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gws
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Post by gws on Jun 25, 2014 13:43:03 GMT -5
Ah, now I'm beginning to understand the scores I see turned in for my club's newsletter! (I'm their editor)
What's Hunter's Benchrest and Varmit for Score? (both done at 100 yds.) The locals aren't even near the shots you guys are. I think 15X is good enough to win Varmit for Score....what ever that is.
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dangun
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Post by dangun on Jun 25, 2014 16:19:49 GMT -5
GWS,
I shoot in both the Heavy Varmit for Score and the light Varmit for Score Specs for those classes listed below along with the other classes. From 100 to 600 yard matches. All classes use the Hunter class targets except heavy Benchrest class. LV or HV classes generally don't shoot at ranges farther than 600 yards although we have done it. The heavy Benchrest generally don't shoot at less than 600 yards. Also the Heavy Benchrest class has no weight restriction. I've seen rifles that weigh over 50 lbs at these matches. So there is some differences. The picture at the bottom shows my light varmit for score rifle on top and the heavy is below. I also have different caliber barrels for each. The LVFS Rifle extra barrel is chambered for 6PPC and the HVFS Extra barrels are 6PPC and 22BR. Both rifles are currently wearing the 30BR barrels.
Hunter Class: A 10 pound rifle; any cartridge, any sights, scopes must be 6X or less (variables must be set and taped); rebarrelling, restocking, and special triggers permitted.
IBS Heavy Varmint (13 1/2 pounds) specifications.
Heavy Varmint for Score Rifle
Any rifle having a safe manually operated firing mechanism, weighing not more
than 13 1/2 pounds inclusive of sight, no limit to scope power, with a stock having a flat or convex
forearm and total stock width not more than 3", having a toe formed by a
straight line drawn from the toe of a substantially vertical butt with a 13 1/4
inch pull starting at a point at least 4 inches below the axis of the bore and
extending forward to the centerline of the barrel at a point no more than 18
inches forward of the bolt face a barrel not less than 18 inches long, a diameter
at and not more than 5 inches ahead of the bolt face of not more than 1.250
inches and a diameter at any point between the muzzle and 5 inches in front of
the bolt face not greater than would be defined by a straight taper between such
point 5 inches in front of the bolt face at 1.250 inches diameter and the muzzle
at .9 inch diameter at 29 inches. The barrel may be attached to the receiver,
bedding blocks or sleeve or combination thereof for a distance of no more than
four (4) inches, measured from the face of the bolt. The overall length of the
receiver, bedding block or sleeve or combination thereof not to exceed 14".
(Maximum dimensions shall not include normal scope blocks or sight bases.)
Epoxy or equivalent plastic bedding compound without parting compound, of the
bottom 180 degree of any portion of the barreled action on Varmint class rifles is
permitted. Remington 40XB stocks, as produced, may be used without
alteration, provided there is no interaction between fore-end and sand bag that
would constitute a guiding means. Electric triggers are allowed. No additions or
attachments shall be added to the barrel, with the exception of a scope shade
(such as those that have been used in competition over the history of the IBS),
which are attached to the barrel by the means of tape, Velcro, or glue, or a tuner
as described in a) except as below.
a) Use of an attached barrel tuner shall be allowed, with the following
restrictions:
(i) The tuner must be securely attached to the barrel (not made integral to
the barrel).
(ii) The tuner cannot have venting ports.
(iii) The rifle must not exceed the weight as described herein.
(iv) Adjusting the tuner during a match can only be accomplished while
remaining seated, and during a match can only be accomplished while
remaining seated, and after removing the bolt from the action. BOLD RED TEXT SIGNIFIES 2010, 2011 RULE CHANGES . V. Group
19 V. Group
(v) The tuner is exempt from the barrel diameter restrictions (may be any
diameter and length), but the barrel itself must remain within the
dimensions as stated in the current rules. Failure to adhere to restriction
#iv above will result in the immediate disqualification of the competitor
from the aggregate in which he or she is competing at the time of the
violation.
(vi) It is the intent of this rule change to allow the use of a tuner in all Group
LV and HV, Score VFS, LV and HV hunter, Varmint Hunter rifles. This rule
change does not affect the rules as they pertain to 1000 yd, and 600
yard competition/classes.
b) The use of muzzle brakes and/or venting or porting of barrels that redirects
powder gas flow from following the direct line of the rifle bore shall not be
allowed.
Varmint for Score Class: The rifle must meet IBS Light Varmint (10 1/2 pounds)
Light Varmint Rifle
Any rifle of not more than 10 1/2 pounds in weight inclusive of sights and
otherwise meeting the requirements of the Heavy Varmint Rifle. No additions or
attachments shall be added to the barrel, with the exception of a scope shade
(such as those that have been used in competition over the history of the IBS)
which are attached to the barrel by the means of tape, Velcro, or glue.
a) The use of barrel tuners is allowed as described in V.B.2.a).
b) The use of muzzle brakes and/or venting or porting of barrels that redirects
powder gas flow from following the direct line of the rifle bore shall not be
allowed.
Factory: There are no specific rules designating this class. It is generally any centerfire rifle that can be purchased with no restocking, rebarrelling, or special triggers. If you have a hunting or varmint hunting rifle and are interested in trying competitive shooting, check with you local IBS range to see when their next match is being held. There are no IBS awards or records maintained for this class.
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gws
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Post by gws on Jun 25, 2014 17:47:12 GMT -5
So Hunter Benchrest & Varmit for Score probably refers to two of the four IBS classes listed simplified below? Am I close? - Hunter class -- 10lb rifle, 6X scope
- IBS Heavy Varmint for Score-- starts with a 13 1/2lb rifle, unlimited sights.
- Varmint for Score = Same as Heavy V for S, excepting a Light Varmit 10 1/2 lb rifle.
- Factory Class (any factory rifle)
If that's so then our locals are probably only shooting 100 yd Hunter class and Light Varmit shoots. Ha! You'll have to come visit and show 'em how the big boys do it. I have a friend from way back who's been involved. I asked him once if I might come watch him shoot. Answer...."you'd be bored stiff. Benchrest ain't a spectator sport." I haven't asked since.  I may be weird but I think it'd be fun to watch. |
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dangun
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Post by dangun on Jun 25, 2014 19:01:41 GMT -5
GWS,
The are more IBS classes but they are as popular. We have just talked about a few in the for score classes and haven't even touched on the Group classes. That's they guys that try to put all five in the same hole and they have a whole different set of classes.
It really isn't a spectators sport but we always have 4 to 9 spectators watching us. They get really excited when the targets are posted. It is obvious when a shooter has fans. When he or she isn't shooting they are answering questions from the spectators and people that the bug is nibbling on. Beware, if it isn't boring to you when you watch you will soon start shopping for guns, rests, drummers thrones, scopes, arbor presses... I think you get what I mean.
Where do they shot? I'm always looking for another range to visit for a match. I might learn something from them. Maybe I swing by for an education sometime.
That's another thing people don't realize. Like golf courses(from what I hear, I don't play) some ranges are harder to shoot than others. That may sound strange but our range is considered to be one of the hardest on the easy coast. Of course we have the home field advantage. We get wind from the gulf and from the atlantic. Sometimes the collide on our range. Funny looking some wind flags pointing one way other point in the opposite direction and other spinning.
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gws
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Post by gws on Jun 25, 2014 21:09:55 GMT -5
Oh, I get what you mean all right and you are absolutely right....I'm already tempted and I haven't even watched one. I'm betting you may have more money tied up in those two guns/barrels than I do in my whole Arsenal! That's great too if your lifestyle supports it. Besides my wife, I have 5 grown kids and 18 grandkids. There's a drama going on somewhere in all that posterity every week! An it all takes money! I think you get what I mean.  My most expensive gun (and it was a major splurge for me) is my brand new $1700 piston driven Ruger 556! Damn, what a fun rifle!!! Yup, I got too impatient to build my own! It would have been a fun project, but Krwada, I'm not! (that one's got real talent!) My club is in the Four Corners...Colo, Utah, NM, Arizona. The weather here is unpredictable. The popular saying around here is, "if you don't like the weather wait 4 hours!" While that may be a little exaggerated, such probably does affect wind direction, and temperature. It was 90 here today...70 last week...95 the week before and that doesn't count the large daily swings from morning to night. Mountains to the north, desert to the south and west, plains to the east. BTW, do you like baseball?  As for learning something here....I suppose anything's possible.....more likely, the locals will do the learning. We have nice outdoor facilities....if you like dirt and views....no really the ranges are great out to a 1000 yards...but not a blade of grass. |
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I may be weird but I think it'd be fun to watch.
My most expensive gun (and it was a major splurge for me) is my brand new $1700 piston driven Ruger 556! Damn, what a fun rifle!!! Yup, I got too impatient to build my own! It would have been a fun project, but Krwada, I'm not! (that one's got real talent!)
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
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My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
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Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
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Pooh I hope you find to right house . 
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