gws
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Post by gws on Jan 25, 2020 14:12:49 GMT -5
 Notice, the ball bearings for turning cases....and all the tools and functions....I like! That base is a hunk of heavy steel! They call it, The Precision Measurement Station I'm buying one of these!
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Post by hacker54 on Jan 25, 2020 19:38:07 GMT -5
Well I looked this over at Hornady's site to see their video of this tool. Looks quite handy will all operations in station setup. Just the base alone weighs 8lbs. Also looks like it won't take up a lot of room on the bench.
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Post by bob on Jan 25, 2020 21:48:06 GMT -5
Geez I wish you had not shown that tool. It look as though it might replace my Hornady comparator/headspace with caliper set and the RCBS and Hornady concentricity instruments. On the bright side, more room for more stuff.
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Post by gws on Jan 25, 2020 22:27:26 GMT -5
I feel exactly the same way....anyone want to buy some outdated tools?  |
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Post by bob on Jan 25, 2020 23:33:14 GMT -5
I had to divert for a time,dinner time,(sauteed skinless boneless chicken thighs in Cream of Mushroom and wine over brown rice and asparagus). I watched the video and I saw one deficiency, the concentricity tool has a correction capability which the new tool lacks. With the RCBS competition seating dies and rotating the case in the sizing die 120-180 degs. that may be a non issue as I very seldom find 0.002" runout. Any idea of price yet?
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gws
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Post by gws on Jan 26, 2020 9:28:42 GMT -5
$255, not that cheap. But, it has several tools with it.....no special deal for sure....
Some of us wondered how jabbing the case sideways could be a good thing (no make loosey or out-of-round?).....kinda like Doctors treating Heart Disease with Statins that remove the stuff that keeps your brain healthy, (which is sorta like blaming cops that always show up after a crime, ignoring what caused the crime in the first place) but since I don't own that tool, I wouldn't know.
The new MatchMaster dies have new Tit. Nitride expanders and some early experimenters say they are even better than Redding's Carbide ones.....slicker than snot and don't yank and stretch the throats. Again that's hearsay, have not got one to try, yet.
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Post by hacker54 on Jan 26, 2020 10:30:22 GMT -5
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bob
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Post by bob on Jan 26, 2020 15:39:40 GMT -5
Greg, I haven't found an issue with making a bullet loose while making a cartridge more concentric as typically we'er talking about +/- a few thousandths. If the runout is say 0.004" you're only moving it about 0.002" to get within "good" concentricity, much more than that is for me unnecessary.
Another method I have read about is sticking the loaded cartridge bullet first into a correct size hole in some thicker hard material like metal or plastic and "bending" the cartridge,with this method you have no indicator at all. I have found by rotating the case at the sizing stage,by its self, usually eliminates run out to tolerable levels. I have heard that rotating during seating does the same except when using competitions dies with a floating bullet guide.
I wonder if the unit could be purchased with out the dial indicator or the various bushings as I already have those.
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Post by poohzilla on Jan 26, 2020 16:23:28 GMT -5
Back in my glory days in highpower, I came into the rotational approach you describe, and even got to the point where when I went to a Leg match, I'd take along my concentricity unit and guage the issued ammunition. If I'd been any good someone would have complained, but all I got was a raised eyebrow or two. It will be interesting to see what the "street" price settles into.
Meanwhile, I was disappointed to not see anything of Rosie... Have a good week, gents !
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Post by SnapShot on Jan 26, 2020 18:48:04 GMT -5
I have some equipment that makes me “look and feel” smarter than I really am . . .
This unit sitting on my bench sure would improve my status when visitors call.
Bob ~ I would like to see the unit available without the dial and bushings too.
Pooh ~ It seems we haven’t seen much of Rosie . . . very disappointing.
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gws
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Post by gws on Jan 27, 2020 0:11:56 GMT -5
I currently have this RCBS CaseMaster: link
On sale at Midway right now from $135 to $115, but it ain't half the tool the new Hornady is. Two things I don't like.....the base is way too light, and a "v" groove instead ball bearings. It does do more than just look at concentricity, but nothing compared to Hornady's new tool. I'm partial to Green products....but not that partial...
Rosie? Come one guys.....surely you have someone more friendly to you than her. On the other side, when we are young again....she has nothing on my companion..... actually, I feel the same way on this side....even as old as we are. but, I have to say, I'm looking forward to time on a beach with her, where the sand is pure as glass, sparkling in the sun like diamonds, and the sun doesn't ever burn, and we stay young forever....  Death doesn't look so bad when you know what's coming after.....with a little patience to wait for the resurrection. Yall believe in that, right? |
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