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Post by SnapShot on Aug 18, 2020 10:48:27 GMT -5
 In my somewhat limited commercial construction days I think I dealt with some of that executive's offspring. Stupid breeds stupid ! ! !
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poohzilla
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Post by poohzilla on Aug 18, 2020 18:08:53 GMT -5
Yep. A lot of that going around !  |
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Post by hacker54 on Aug 18, 2020 18:12:52 GMT -5
It seems that the "Stupid Gene Pool"is more abundant today as the "Commonsense Gene Pool" is not very common these days.
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Post by SnapShot on Aug 19, 2020 10:57:44 GMT -5
My granddad always said “Stupidity Should be Painful!” and I agree.
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Post by dangun on Aug 27, 2020 15:59:03 GMT -5
HI guys!
We have a 3d printer at work. It is hugh, the print bed (if that's what it is called) is 8'X 8'. I'm not smart enough to use the CAD software but we also have a Faro Arm with a laser scanner. Scan whatever you what to duplicate load the program and print. So far all I have printed is a couple of holsters for my glock 19. The plastic we use is not very durable and the holsters wear on the inside.
So I'm asking yo experts, what type of plastic would be the most durable?
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Post by gws on Aug 31, 2020 14:50:59 GMT -5
I thought mine was big......  Dan, ask if they can print Nylon. What do they print with an 8' bed?  ??
Well I'll be darned, mine works, it works.......dumb old people can learn new tricks!
SHow and Tell time:
Open code bullet feeder base above printing......took 18 hours.....I didn't even burn up the house.....
Added a 12v motor to the bottom.....10RPM geared.
Sorry that black is hard to see......found a hex head for the motor tightened with a set screw. The bullet platters will have the hex in the center to just drop in and rotate on.
Below: the important stuff......my 10 year old Grandson talked me into printing a T-Rex Scull..... the jaw printing... first attempt at support posts... scary ....you can't print in mid air.....or can you?
Below: but they worked.  For some reason the plastic strung a fine web between supports....
Below: Finished lower Jaw......teeth will have to be de-webbed. If there's away to prevent that....I haven't figured it out yet. That print took 6 hours!
Printing the big piece today (19 hour print.....will be done at 2am in the morning.) That second print will be the Scull itself........hopefully my Grandson will allow me to get back to my bullet feeder Project tomorrow. 
Video below shows why "print watching" is short lived.
No it isn't that loud.....my camera mic is way too sensitive.....volume is a quarter that loud.
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Post by poohzilla on Aug 31, 2020 17:03:52 GMT -5
Way too cool, Greg ! Keep the pix coming !
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Post by hacker54 on Aug 31, 2020 19:28:46 GMT -5
According to the photos you seem to be catching on rather well. The video would have been nice but you have to sign in to see it.
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Post by gws on Aug 31, 2020 23:15:51 GMT -5
Sign in to what? No one is seeing the video?
YouTube is too complicated for simple people like me.........I think I fixed it. I thought is was finished in the creating screen and it wasn't.....had to tell the world it wasn't for children.......brother....
Does it work now? Don't bother to watch the whole thing.....it repeats the same boring stuff.....I'll replace it with something more interesting tomorrow once the print finishes.
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Post by bob on Sept 1, 2020 8:48:32 GMT -5
That is pretty neat Greg. What is the cementing agent or is it heat? How difficult is the code writing I know you can't just make things from a picture, we had a CNC router and the code was way beyond me. |
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Post by gws on Sept 1, 2020 15:23:49 GMT -5
That is pretty neat Greg. What is the cementing agent or is it heat? How difficult is the code writing I know you can't just make things from a picture, we had a CNC router and the code was way beyond me. Bob, it is neat and the agent is HEAT! Anything you can make, with any 3D cad software.....you can print....if that software will save to a .stl file. (most do) That means expensive like my Autocad, or free as in Autocad Fusion (for hobbiest/students, or just plain Freecad.
Thingiverse.com is a huge reservoir of "thingi's" you can freely download and print. The T Rex is one of those, for that matter so is the bullet/case feeder I'm playing with right now.
Drawing 3D with cad, then converting my Autocad 3D dwg files to an .stl file, (usable by a 3D Printer's "slicer" software) doesn't required coding unless you use a cad software that draws ONLY by coding it......like OpenCad......more on that one later. I don't know how to code that one either.....yet.....but so far haven't needed to....others are out there on the web doing that for us. I know Bob.....swooch.....right over your head.....mine too a month ago. If is wasn't easier than we think, I would never have started.
Thanks to a lot of really neat friendly helpful people in the hobby, normal people can do this. Are mistakes made? Why yes.......look below:
I'm printing the Lower Jaw.......again......see if you can guess why....;
On the Bullet feeder project......I'm trying to get past a patent that's holding up the hobby. So I actually am designing a part or two to try to do that for the "Open Bullet Feeder" from Thingiverse that I printed in the first pictures. I may even learn enough "coding" to change a few parameters of the designs of others....but that's a couple of months away..... The now parts that I'm playing with was just drawn on my Autocad, converted to .STL then plugged into a "slicer."
Ok, more about the slicer. Simply, its software that dices up any model of anything into .2mm horizontal slices so the 3D printer can print it one .2mm layer from the bottom......up.....to the top. Then the printer shuts itself down.
Just one more little thing.....and it really is little....the molten plastic has to cool.....fast....or the model will obviously sag......Printers have fans on the extruder pointing just behind the nozzle for that very purpose. (I'll edit this if I need to when I have more time tonight.)
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Post by bob on Sept 1, 2020 18:52:09 GMT -5
Greg,  Thanks for splain'n the process I jumped up just as just as the information went passed! A good description non the less. Looks as though you made a father/ son skull. |
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Post by hacker54 on Sept 1, 2020 21:20:20 GMT -5
Thanks Greg for getting the videos that we can see the action. Looking over your bullet/case feeder I'm wondering if you could make drums for stainless steel media for case cleaning. You know like making your own setup. Has that idea cross your mind?
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Post by gws on Sept 2, 2020 1:24:04 GMT -5
Hacker: It has, but I've reached the slow down age. I won't ever need that much volume. The Thumblers is plenty for old men.....least this one. T Rex is done....Pictures..... How big is it? Heres a picture with my hand in it..... Toothy fellow ...... glad I wasn't alive when he was....the real thing was a lot bigger!
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Post by gws on Sept 2, 2020 8:37:10 GMT -5
Glad they are all dead and fossilized.....or we'd be reloading bazookas ... if there were any of us left. Imagine the full scale model. Shudder. Can't help but think of Jurassic Park, the movie........and the outhouse scene.......
Finally back to the bullet feeder project.
Bob! I know just how you feel. I have two choices.....recliner, or FORCE myself to learn something new. I know I'm not that far from checking out....but I'm going to be kicking and screaming to the bitter end ..................... my wife told me to.
Hacker! Thought about your idea some more. Yes! You don't have to make it huge or anything. The important thing is making it hold water, and making the cradle for it. I've seen peoples' projects making cradles in various ways. One guy even used casters from home depot mounted upside down. It also has to be able to agitate the media inside. The Thumblers I have just made 6 flat sides. with round ends.....others glued "vanes" inside like those of a cement mixer. Both work fine....round by itself would just roll past the media.
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Post by hacker54 on Sept 2, 2020 20:34:52 GMT -5
Greg, My line of thinking of these drums is if one had several rounds of different calibers to clean. When one got done you could put the next drum of another caliber on and start while the one that just got done is in rinse and ready to dry while the other is cleaning. If I was to purchase a setup I would opt for at least one additional drum. Oh I do like the detail of the T-Rex. Question how small of a detail will your printer go down to?
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Post by gws on Sept 4, 2020 0:43:01 GMT -5
The nozzle is .4 mm diameter. I think you can buy larger ones and maybe even smaller ones.....but I don't know much about it. I'm just a beginner you know. It isn't more detailed than that.
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Post by gws on Sept 4, 2020 2:10:09 GMT -5
I'm printing a couple of bullet feeder parts tonight.....bit off too much.....taking a long time. That's 3d printing's middle name, "Take a Long Time" I may be up another hour....it's 30 after midnight. Typically I don't print at night, but I'm going to the mountains in the morning for a camping reunion with my family.
Here's a few more pictures. The green one is being printed by something called Silk Hybrid PLA. It almost looks like anodized aluminum. It's the only green I could find last month.....wasn't my first choice. My wife likes it......wonders if we can make Christmas ornaments with it....rolling eyes.
The green is not solid as I opted for a non solid fill copied from Butterfly wings under microscope. Light, strong and prints........way faster than solid...twice at least....rolling eyes again.
the skirt ((plastic around the outside is to test the layer height (can adjust while it's printing). Notice it's flatish....if it's round the nozzle is too high and it won't stick to the bed.)) Hacker was asking about details....that skirt is 2 lines wide....flattened Both together make about a 1/16th wide. those weird shaped holes barely allow a .45 to fall in.
In these pictures they look like plastic, in real life they look like anodized aluminum.....really! Wasn't expecting a light show.
The next picture is of the baffle that make the bullet lay down and slide into the holes nose down. For the lead boolit crowd's bullet sizing operation. This is a test of concept, on my part.
This part is mounted just a .45 + width above and covers the green holes below. The 3 protrusions are to catch the bullet tops as the green plate turns under, and lay them down if they are rolling around the feeder base down. Once layed down they fall into the special shaped holes nose down and drops to the bullet sizer below......that's the hope anyway.......I may fail at this you know.....
We are trying to bypass Mr. Bullet Feeder's lock on nose down bullet feeders.....his method has a patent. They are overpriced pompous asses, suing all these guys who just want to have an inexpensive hobby. My Printer cost me $500. His bullet feeder costs $500 plus $150 for each caliber change......this is a hobby for crying out loud. Better to pay for a printer and make lots of feeders, than pay so much for a little feeder. If the idea works I'll put the files on Thingiverse.....so anyone who gets a printer.....and even a $100 printer can make one, or ten.
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Post by hacker54 on Sept 4, 2020 21:28:43 GMT -5
Greg I must say that your updates are quite interesting on the progress of the work. Oh by the way come December will be looking for photos of those Christmas ornaments.
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Post by gws on Sept 11, 2020 23:41:47 GMT -5
It's been a few days......back from the Colorado Mountains, and back to work and play. Work during the day and play at night. Play? The 3d printed bullet feeder of course.
Here's a teaser......I hope there's more next week.......yes it works.....bullet nose down for sizing lead fodder.....and NO RAMP used....no enfringement....
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Post by bob on Sept 12, 2020 18:56:47 GMT -5
Very clever Greg! You having that machine, I can only wonder what has been loosed on us? |
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Post by gws on Sept 13, 2020 13:32:01 GMT -5
Very clever Greg! You having that machine, I can only wonder what has been loosed on us? Wonder? At least I won't be committing suicide by Covid, from Covid boredom! This is really fun, Bob.....fun? What's that these days, right? 
My Brother has a daughter in the middle of the fires out there......evacuated. Coming home to New Mexico until it's over......she's hoping against hope that there will be something to return to.
2020 has sure been a crappy year........but not nearly as crappy as it will be if Trump loses. Bye Bye American Pie.
Are you still running the big machines over there? Not shut down from the fires? I don't like California politics, but I love California....unfortunately so did the worst liberals in America. Praying for you good people over there.
Are you doing any reloading still?
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Post by bob on Sept 13, 2020 20:33:36 GMT -5
Where does your daughter live?
Yes I am still playing with the larger Tonka Toys. The lightning storm got our ranch but spared the houses! I'm also retained by a law firm as a spert witness which has taken up a fair amount of time fortunately as the toy work has slowed.
I am still reloading primarily for that 6.5 -270 wildcat and the K Hornet with some .257 Rob'ts with Barnes thrown in.
I don't think about Trump losing,too scary to contemplate, it's bad enough here with neusolini.
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Post by gws on Sept 22, 2020 23:41:45 GMT -5
Bob! Sorry not to reply sooner. My big sister died last week.....so I was traveling to the funeral in Utah. She was unlucky enough to catch Leukemia.....was glad it took her faster than some. Not a great disease to live with. She was 79. So now I'm not only an orphan, but my siblings are getting to the crossover bridge too. Looking forward to the big family reunions on the other side......I believe God will put Democrats on another planet from us. Otherwise it wouldn't be heaven would it. I don't really know where my brother's daughter lives.....I will try to remember to ask him tomorrow. |
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Post by hacker54 on Sept 23, 2020 19:37:48 GMT -5
Sorry to hear of your loss. Prayers for you and the family.
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Post by bob on Sept 23, 2020 23:08:30 GMT -5
Greg, I am so sorry for your loss, My thoughts are with you and your family. Now you have to be a good boy as she will be watching.
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Post by poohzilla on Sept 24, 2020 18:41:59 GMT -5
Greg, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. It may be a temporary parting, but it's still a wrench.
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Post by SnapShot on Sept 25, 2020 20:32:14 GMT -5
Greg ~
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and yours . . .
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Post by gws on Sept 25, 2020 21:57:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind thoughts gentlemen. I got up yesterday morning early, and traveled to Manassa Colorado (wife's hometown) for yep.....another funeral! The last of her parents family died at 96....her father's little brother....truly we are orphaned totally! Heck....I hope I don't have to live that long. the next generation is (mine) is being whittled down too....with my sister gone that makes two, and another isn't that healthy....I'm next in age....the two younger brothers and the caboose nuther little sister. That's life!
Anyway, the way the dems are trying to take us to civil war......the spirit world may be inundated soon......hope not.....I'd like my kids,grandkids, and greats to have good long lives in a free America too. Nuff said.
I'm back and back to the "project." It appears it will drag on a while.....lots yet to do, and I'm still too dumb. Much more to figure out. This week my proximity switch came in....and a speed control for the motor, and I had to figure where to put that.
First picture shows how you wire the speed control and switch so that the bullet stack turns off the motor:
Grey cord is the switch, white goes to the motor and black to the 12v Power supply. Left to right terminals on the speed control is -motor; +motor; + p.s.; -p.s. The extra black leads just tie together......it works great. Any size bullet within 1/4" of the yellow sensor turns off the power if it stops in front of it.
So.....I needed a box to put the speed control/power switch in.......printing below.... Mounted it under the collator with a couple of screws. The lid is ajar to show you how it slides in recessed under the keepers. The LED power light shows through the ventilation holes in the upside-down lid.
Next I'll have to figure out a way to modify the bullet outlet above to stick that proximity switch in there......one guy mounted his at the bottom on top of his bullet feeder die on the press......picture below:
Proximity switch screws in........but that doesn't suit me. First, being at the bottom there's not enough bullet stack.(on off on off over and over....it'd drive me crazy) Second, you'd have to make one for every bullet diameter. I figure if you mount it tilted with the collator, you can make the bullets fall against the sensor and get away with using a one size fits all tube......then neck the tube down below the sensor with caliber specific transitions to fit the caliber specific bullet feeder die screwed into your press. We will see.
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Post by hacker54 on Sept 25, 2020 22:40:46 GMT -5
Looks like you're progressing along. Have you been tracking the cost of materials for this project? Oh and time involved as well?
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Dan, ask if they can print Nylon. What do they print with an 8' bed?
For some reason the plastic strung a fine web between supports....
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
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