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Post by gws on Jun 29, 2020 15:40:29 GMT -5
Boredom must be defeated.....and besides I have so many ideas.....so few tools....so little time left! 
Anyone here have any experience?
I have a Creality CR10 V2 on the way......a week away. Saliva flowing? Not yet, but there's so many possibilities for making it worthwhile and interesting...especially for an old guy becoming more allergic to real work or at least finding it physically impossible to do it for more than short spurts at a time.
My Grandkids have gotten wind of it......THEY are excited and already have orders in......one a full-sized Clone Mask (Starwars). rolling eyes. 
On another concurrent note.....I just got out of the hospital......yeah I know.....again! The mother of all Gall bladder attacks hit me last Monday night.....the offender was forcibly removed.....and today is the first day I'm feeling good again....ready to rumble. (was scared it was heart related at the time.....not....just gene related.)
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Post by bob on Jun 29, 2020 18:08:24 GMT -5
Greg, sorry to hear of your recent issue, fortunately you got rid of the problem and are feeling good again.now just stay the heck away from hospitals!  Sorry Greg, the only 3D experience I have is with a bulldozer move'n dirt. You must be catching up to me work wise, 10 hours on a John Deere tractor is OK but 5 hours of carpentry is too much. |
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Post by hacker54 on Jun 29, 2020 21:42:03 GMT -5
Greg,
It's good they took care of the offending party and forcibly removed it from the premise (your body) yes they can be quite painful as that's what they thought was my problem two years ago. Instead of it the problem was the liver. I hope I don't have a problem with either in the future. Glad that you're on the mend. Now is this device large enough to upgrade your bullet and case feeders?
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Post by gws on Jun 29, 2020 22:07:06 GMT -5
Greg, It's good they took care of the offending party and forcibly removed it from the premise (your body) yes they can be quite painful as that's what they thought was my problem two years ago. Instead of it the problem was the liver. I hope I don't have a problem with either in the future. Glad that you're on the mend. Now is this device large enough to upgrade your bullet and case feeders? No words necessary.....just ok one word.....cheap. (Company bought it for 'Architecture' covid projects)
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Post by gws on Jun 29, 2020 22:21:10 GMT -5
So you like John Deeres I take it? My sister's boy started driving heavy equipment from the time he was 12. He works for J.D now as an equipment designer. He started in the cab of a Ford backhoe at his Daddy's knee....my in-law, partner retired. He grew up working for big excavation companies in S.L Utah, and John Deere caught wind of an improvement he made to some big earth mover his company was having trouble with....and that's all she wrote....he's been working at the factory every since.
As for 10 hours vs. 5 hours......me? 2 hours of either is enough.
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Post by poohzilla on Jun 30, 2020 6:26:15 GMT -5
Greg, Mrs. Pooh lost a gall bladder a couple of years back-she hasn't missed it a bit ! (She'd had these spells for years !) I think the 3D printer is a good replacement. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it !
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Post by gws on Jun 30, 2020 7:15:38 GMT -5
Pooh....me and my siblings were issued with rejects I think. I'm in the middle of 7 kids.... I have one brother just under me in age who still has one. Or maybe it's what we eat. Shoulda smoked or drinked a little? I don't know, but I'm glad to be free of the pain......especially since it mimicked heart symptoms......and I'm a little skiddish when it come to that, being a post-double heart bypass patient. My parents died with theirs intact, one at 85, one at 93........but then they didn't eat at McDonalds as much as me.  My youngest sister, lost hers after childbirth when she was young.....so who knows? As for the 3D printer.....me too. If I'm too stupid, it'll be on the selling block real fast-like. I see it as the possibility of making things I think I need, where ordinarily one would need metal fabricating/machining/welding skills. (of which I have zilch) Think about it.....what other tooling can you buy for 100 to 500 dollars that can make things precision enough to run motorized as smooth as manufactured tools made from cnc machinery? ....and with only the minimum of computer geek skills using free 3D cad software. We will see..... |
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Post by SnapShot on Jun 30, 2020 9:43:24 GMT -5
Greg ~
As a group it seems to me that too many of us have medical issues to compare. I guess it's a sign of the age this group shares. At any rate, I'm glad to hear you're on the good side of your adventure.
My grandson has taken a few classes with 3D Printing. It is really amazing what he has made; gears within gears and interlocking parts all made at the same time. I have no first hand experience but have seen a lot of the work he has done. The whole idea of 3D Printing is truly amazing. I'll bet you discover a lot of great ideas with the new toy.
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Post by bob on Jun 30, 2020 18:05:31 GMT -5
Truthfully I'm still trying to rap my head around the concept let alone actuality. |
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Post by gws on Jun 30, 2020 22:34:45 GMT -5
Truthfully I'm still trying to rap my head around the concept let alone actuality. That was me Bob, until I was amazed by how it could make things useful and inexpensive, and better yet, sharable.....as in sharing print files with anyone interested. All they had to do is buy a printer once, buy rolls of plastic, and print things that would cost hundreds each over and over for dollars rather than hundreds of dollars. the great equalizer. IOW's, buy a 3D bullet feeder for a few hundred, instead of buying a $500 bullet feeder.....and make the bullet feeder for $50, a case feeder for $50, and a whatever else that comes along in Thingyverse.....over and over. I made a primer catcher for my Rock Chucker years ago, only the first part made from the stock RCBS catch that didn't work, a drilled out .357 case bedded in epoxy......see below;
The above was just one part of three 4 parts required to be designed and built.........and that just for the primer catcher part. The future Kicker needed the primer catcher to be modified again.
OR on Thingyverse.com you can freely download one file...print it on your 3D printer, and you have this: (would be easy to modify it on the 3d drawing to add the kicker ramp (see video below:)
File by Sean Desbiens...... downloadable FREE!@#%
Once I 3D design and print the other too parts and post them on thingyverse....and update his design just a tad, you all can print the files while you are at work.......if you buy one tool....a 3D printer.
Start it all printing, come home from work later, put it together......and do the following....all done while you sing on the John Deere.....and smile.
Yeah, I'm really feeling better today, hope you are too....and any of the other musketeers who are suffering right now and do it more quietly than me.
Glad for your grandson's early experience ..... who knows what the post "black lives matter movement" brings......hope it's before I die.
Once I learn this new technology, maybe I'll finally be able to do more than just show pictures for those who take a chance on 3d. You can still get an Anet Kit for very cheap.
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Post by gws on Jul 15, 2020 21:17:46 GMT -5
Update.....
I got the tool installed.....that was easy.....learning how to use it is quite another matter. I'm not near as smart as the young guys who master it in a week.....
But here's a picture.....
Had to do a little remodeling to make it fit.....still not quite done with that. Am I having second thoughts? Depends on how tired I am.... It'll print big enough for any feeder.....or anything else I may want..... |
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Post by bob on Jul 15, 2020 22:22:48 GMT -5
At any rate it looks like fun times ahead.
As usual keep us in the loop!
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Post by hacker54 on Jul 15, 2020 23:33:35 GMT -5
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Post by gws on Jul 16, 2020 12:09:16 GMT -5
I had the white preformed countertop remnant in my shop.....I cut it to 30" wide. Notice the shelf above....it was too low to handle the vertical "Z" dimension, so I added a 4" shelf behind the countertop backsplash to push out the footprint another 4 inches....obviously I have to fabricate an "end" to the new section since I just screwed it down over the old hobby bench surface. So finished workspace is 30" wide by 28" deep. The printer itself is just under 25" high. Yeah, Titan has made a few things on his printer to sell.......another is a spacer holder for the Lee Universal 4-tube feeder. My Grandson is more interested in the Tyrannosaurus Rex Skull..... another, the Clone Mask from Star Wars Clone Wars.....shoulda kept it a secret, huh!
For sure I won't be making any model airplanes anymore....it's the eyes....too old. As you can guess this was my hobby room....well my half of the hobby room....my wife sews quilts in the other half......okay....my quarter of the hobby room.....but that's fair....I have the garage too where I reload.
I could put a model airplane on the printer, take another picture, and make it look I made it on the printer......
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Post by SnapShot on Jul 16, 2020 16:02:14 GMT -5
Looks nice. My grandsons 3-D Printer is enclosed in a housing about the size of a laser printer but has much greater size limitations than yours. So far all I’ve seen from that is a couple cool little animals he made.
As for sharing your room . . . I totally understand. When we moved here 3 years ago my wife got a portion of my gun room. It’s for her six color computerized embroidery machine.
Be careful; wife’s space tends to grow if not watched closely.
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Post by hacker54 on Jul 22, 2020 20:09:30 GMT -5
Greg I have found an interesting article on 3-D printing that seems allmost impossible to believe yet alone but yet it is being tested. This is also being done and tested in China. So with that makes me wonder are we doing anything like this here. So what is so special about what is being 3-D printed by Chinese scientist? Well it does relate to firearms. Being more specific as in a component of amunition. So one would think OK a 3-D printed bullet or maybe a cartridge case. Well we do have plastic shotshells but it's neither. This leaves two options and primer is not it. Yes that leaves gunpowder. Yes gentlemen they're working on 3-D printed gunpowder well per the article it's call a substitute. I'll give the link to read over and comment. Greg with this maybe you can expand your horizons. www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/07/21/3d-print-gunpowder/ |
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Post by gws on Jul 22, 2020 21:46:05 GMT -5
Not my horizons......I'm just interested in improving reloading equipment. 
I'm not sure about their research.....looks like a dead end to me. However maybe they could add multiple nozzles and have some print plastic cases, some print propellant and others print dense plastic bullets......who knows? That just leaves primers......so maybe you could lay a primer on the bed and 3d print over the top of it...... they do make plastic bullets now.....but I've never had the interest to try them.
The biggest flaw in their existing state of the art, appears to be the resin filler......or should I say adulterant.....that halves the power curve of the propellant. Yet it's a very interesting article Hacker.....
The biggest discovery I've made with my new 3D printer, is how dense I actually am.... No pretensions with one of those machines....and it doesn't help knowing I've already killed most of my brain cells having lived for 70 1/2 years. |
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Post by poohzilla on Aug 2, 2020 16:11:28 GMT -5
Greg, how are things progressing ? This stuff is fascinating. Hope everyone's well !
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Post by gws on Aug 10, 2020 18:39:26 GMT -5
Sorry Pooh.....been busy trying to learn how to learn again....with half the brain cells I usta have. Yeah....here it is 19 days later.....printed some covid mask ties that worked, wupee..... I became annoyed with constant bed leveling with bad eyes, so I ordered an automatic bed leveler, that required me to erase then upload new "firmware" to use it.....IOW's the software running the hardware was changed out totally. Then I started learning how to make computer models......you don't think I'd be content with printing other people's ideas? .....and I have a couple of other EXCUSES..... but the following will bore you enough.... The internet has all the info I could want to learn 2 more computer languages....but you have to search for it, (and in my case read all of it 20 times to makes it stick in my half empty of working brain cells,brain.) So where am I now? I'm learning "slicer software." That's the language that slices the models you download or make. (.STL files) Slices? That means figuratively slicing your model a hundred times horizontally, so the printer can lay down one 2mm level of molten plastic at a time.......IOW's, the printer can only print one layer at a time.....like a finely sliced tomato 2mm at a time. I've chosen a slicer called "Idea Maker" because it's the one free slicer that can do 99% of what the $200 S3D slicer can do.........so maybe, by the end of the week, I will have a successful part printed, For what? A case feeder, a bullet feeder, a APP shuttle improvement, something else? Decisions decisions. That's the hard part. Haven't made up my mind where to start. Today I've been researching "start gcode" and "stop gcode" The gcode is what the slicer outputs....and that's the software form the printer understands and prints by. Start code is the printer commands to start printing at a particular place on the print bed and gives the printer the parameters you want. Stop code is the printer commands to to reset everything for the next print, retract the molten plastic backwards a little, move the print head out of the way so you can get at the part you printed (and turn everything off). All sounds complicated (and very boring), but it's only for the first few prints. Sort of like learning all the steps of reloading, that once you reload a few times, becomes second nature to the point that you don't even think about most of the details......except powder level. Same, same. I'm glad I don't have to learn to reload for the first time at my age...... You asked Pooh! This needs a picture.....the Ezabl Pro "automatic Bed Leveler" by TH3D that I mounted yesterday.....it works....yessss...so much easier to level the bed....no young eyes necessary! (but it cost $60 for that convenience....well worth it to blind old people.)
Below: An Ezabl mounted to somebody's Ender 3 3D Printer.
Looks similar to the proximity sensor I installed on my Hornady bullet feeder mod.....except that it doesn't need metal to get close to. It measures the distance from the bed to the sensor, and the software knows that the print nozzle is exactly 2mm below that. It moves all around the bed and "levels" it to the print head. Neat! With no moving parts to crush in an accident. (Yup a fail safe for the old or forgetful!) Having fun.....and not Covid bored.
In the picture above is a red part printing......a practice circle around the part is for making sure the resin is flowing right. Interesting, no? OK, boring, but kinda interesting? |
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Post by hacker54 on Aug 10, 2020 19:30:34 GMT -5
Well Greg thanks for the update. I can see from your technical explanation as to why one needs the surface that being printed on needs to be constantly level. I have problems with reading the teck stuff and that's with all the brain cells working but I can learn more from pictures and videos. Well when you have this learning curve done and start your endevors at printing I do hope you'll share a video or two how things turn out.
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Post by SnapShot on Aug 11, 2020 20:14:44 GMT -5
Greg ~
I'm glad to know your bed will be level . . . I'd hate to hear you fell out.
(sorry about that, I couldn't resist)
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Post by bob on Aug 11, 2020 22:37:27 GMT -5
You got there first Larry!
Greg,it does look fascinating but way beyond me! Have fun with your contraption and create more contraptions. You are very creative.
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Post by gws on Aug 12, 2020 16:44:20 GMT -5
Larry, at my age I might ought to worry about that, but once I go to sleep I don't move a muscle until the tanks full, and that wakes me up. The trip to the commode in the dark in the middle of the night may be my Waterloo.....more ways than one. I feel sorry for those who experience such, multiple times a night.....at least my problem is once per night once or twice a week. Yes I do have a little nite light plugged in along the way.....or I'd for sure be in trouble.
Bob, you always say something like that......I suspect what you really mean, is you don't have time nor want to take time for such trivial pursuits. Your hobbies are more the kind that gets you off your butt.......that's a good thing......keep it up as long as you can.
For me it's sort of a mind saver. I'm always recuperating from something.....a doctors knife or something else that keeps me from the pursuits I really want to do. These projects keep me from going stir-crazy, and senile......okay at least stir-crazy. I haven't got to shoot a firearm since last fall, except for one little short outing last month, with 2 grandsons, to sight in a new toy they bought. Heart attack, gall bladder, and gun range closed to covid. I'm back to feeling good.....and I've even lost weight and have more energy. Now if the stupid gun range will just open.....
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Post by bob on Aug 12, 2020 22:54:38 GMT -5
Greg, what I've said is from my gut or mind,whats left of it. Whether or not I would pursue your endeavors is not an issue. I'm one of those, give me a set of plans and get out of my way. I may make some changes though, hence my other company is Hindsight Engineering Machinery Fabrication. I truly appreciate your creativity,perhaps more so if I loaded on a progressive press. STAY OUT of the hospital PLEASE! |
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Post by gws on Aug 13, 2020 19:51:15 GMT -5
Hmmmmm? Maybe you ought to try a progressive.........on the other hand.......maybe I need to go back to loading only on a single......for to stay out of the hospital..... less stress......maybe that's how YOU stay out of the hospital. Ha!
My job has always been to create the plans and get in the way of those who attempt to read and execute them......now that's stressful:)
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Post by bob on Aug 14, 2020 1:23:21 GMT -5
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Post by gws on Aug 16, 2020 13:21:09 GMT -5
Right.....I'm only the fireman......to put out fires.....clarify intent when needed or fix engineering mistakes. Once the equipment is running.....I stay out of the way. I was building a gas station/convenience store once.....I looked at the engineers' excavation plan, and saw that if executed as drawn storm water would drain INTO the building......best to catch such things before the equipment is running, right? Another time, when building a Church, I noticed the back entrance roof ceiling elevation was specified lower than the door height. Architects aren't always good with 3D visualization skills on 2D plans, same as engineers (and plumbers) who get slope backwards. Mistakes like those are always costly! Obviously a building contractor like me can't afford to rely on others.....every detail has to be checked and rechecked.....we all make errors....me included. Murphy's Law is THE law......my job is to make sure "going wrong" isn't possible. Very stressful...but not as stressful as reaping the rewards of allowing "going wrong" to happen by not catching everything. You know the other law.....no such thing as a perfect set of plans (mine included). |
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Post by bob on Aug 16, 2020 18:38:11 GMT -5
Been there also, building a 2 acre solar system in northern California in the Sacramento River flood plain the engineer and the surveyor had the primary electrical equipment pad 2' below grade, grade was flood plain. this wasn't a typo error! Another architect complained the fresh asphalt pavement was too black. One has to but wonder where they bought their credentials.
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Post by gws on Aug 17, 2020 17:34:02 GMT -5
But consider this: If you are a Democrat you don't need credentials, especially in your one party state.
Many years ago, a "executive" of a company we were remodeling for, called the building inspector on me. He said we were doing shoddy horrible work. the inspector showed up and said, "things look great, what's the problem?" (We were sheet rocking the interior walls) He said, "Look at all those dents in the sheetrock!" (with a horrified face) "They can't even nail sheet rock without ruining it!" That was long before sheet rock screws were invented. He must have been a modern Democrat's father.....what chance did he/she have? Can you imagine what he would have thought if we were doing lath and plaster?
That same building inspector told that story for a long time to anyone who hadn't already heard it......laughing his head off.....
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Post by bob on Aug 18, 2020 8:36:30 GMT -5
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My youngest sister, lost hers after childbirth when she was young.....so who knows?
My daughter came from Missouri, my son and grand son, my wife and I had a nice dinner of grilled "porter house" pork chops, corn on the cobb, my son, G'son and I share 10/5. G'son is 4 minutes early though @ 10/4.
Pooh I hope you find to right house . 